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If this team/city loses Cam I will still be a strong Panther fan just as I was before Cam. Anyone who says otherwise is just a Cam fanboy and our fans are full of them.

You can still be a fan of the team and realize the stupidity of the owner. That said, I hope all you JR nob slobbers start rethinking how much you love him and the FO, I'm not sure what else JR could do at the point of losing losing a QB like Cam to prove he is a failure of an owner.

And Cam is a competitor, if he leaves, I believe his reason is because he wasn't given the tools to succeed.

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Ja'Wuan James was picked about where we could expect to pick even without a playoff win, Jason Verrett about where we'd pick with a single playoff win, and Bradley Roby was picked about where we'd pick if we do catch fire at the right time, get our franchise DE back, and make it to Glendale. All amazing scenarios for us and why not considering our amazing fortune in the draft since Cam.

Speaking of James, the Dolphins are Exhibit A of how fast things can change in sports, in the NFL, and on the OL. The biggest circus and embarrassment in all of sports (the Dolphins OL) turns into a major strength overnight with James and Albert.

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Franchise tag him.

It guarantees that you get something back for him. You can work out whatever compensation another team is willing to give.

No way I could see the team just letting him walk.

If he literally just walks so do I. If you get nothing in return then I can't take you serious as a professional football team.
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Who else could we have signed

 

Same answer I gave Roaring Riot.  With Hardy franchised, nobody.  Tackles got ridiculous money this offseason and most of them are proving they weren't worth it.  Likewise, if one of the top tackles had fallen in the draft, we wouldn't have Benjamin.  Reaching for need in a later round wouldn't have been a good decision either.

 

I definitely think bad decisions were made this year, but it has to be acknowledged that there weren't a lot of options.

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Gettleman might have inadvertently lost Cam when he cut Smitty. Why? Steve Smith has received more media hype and attention at age 36 or whatever he is now in his one year as a Baltimore Raven than he did in any single year as a Panther. Baltimore has won multiple Super Bowls and gets way more media play than the Panthers do. Mike Mitchell is getting way more attention as a Steeler than he did as a Panther last year. The Panthers are the NFL's farm team. If you're Cam Newton and you have zero ties to Charlotte and North Carolina and you want to be an entertainer and icon, is staying with the Panthers the smartest thing to do?

 

somehow you managed to type up the single worst post in this plane crash of a thread

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Drafted in 1991. In 1993, he resigned for the largest deal in the history of the entire league at that point. Traded him when he wanted out in 1996.

His career also more closely resembles former #1 pick Drew Bledsoe (at best), than Cam's neighbor Michael Jordan.

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somehow you managed to type up the single worst post in this plane crash of a thread

 

Let's say that it's true that I'm a terrible poster (and it's not, I'm consistently pied and my threads get more views than almost anyone else on the Huddle). Which is sadder? The guy who takes the time to type terrible posts or the guy who takes the time to call that guy out on every single one of his posts? You could easily ignore me, please get a life.

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Let's say that it's true that I'm a terrible poster (and it's not, I'm consistently pied and my threads get more views than almost anyone else on the Huddle). Which is sadder? The guy who takes the time to type terrible posts or the guy who takes the time to call that guy out on every single one of his posts? You could easily ignore me, please get a life.

 

you're a running joke on this forum and you're the only one not in on it.

 

your post was idiotic because you bolstered the entirety of your blatherings on the premise that cam must've been furious that steve smith got run out of town, while literally all the evidence points to the contrary. your ability to perceive reality is fundamentally flawed and it shows up in almost everything you type on this website.

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