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So... anybody here still think Ron will eventually lead us to a Super Bowl?

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jabberwockie Newbie

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I don't think Carolina will ever win a super bowl honestly. I think their great chance was in 03 and they couldn't do it then. Every season one "leak" in the boat gets fixed and then four or five more spring up. Every season it seems like if the organization gets rid of "that one coordinator" or "that one coach" that it will all come together, but it never seems to. I'm just glad the NFL isn't the only sport I follow because being a Panther fan is anything but easy. Hopefully those of you that take the moment to read this post understand that I'm frustrated and not jumping ship, I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way I do.

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PantherPhann89 Mentor

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No I don't. I'm now loosing faith in our coaching staff by the game. Seeing how LaFell is playing, in my opinion is an indictment on our coaches. Yes I know, our Offensive line isn't as good and our QB isn't as good but neither are our coaches.   Watching our team play, at times, it's like they're going through the motions instead of playing with emotion. Of course I'm not talking about every player but the ones this fits. We need an proactive, adaptive, creative and aggressive coaching staff...

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I don't think Carolina will ever win a super bowl honestly. I think their great chance was in 03 and they couldn't do it then. Every season one "leak" in the boat gets fixed and then four or five more spring up. Every season it seems like if the organization gets rid of "that one coordinator" or "that one coach" that it will all come together, but it never seems to. I'm just glad the NFL isn't the only sport I follow because being a Panther fan is anything but easy. Hopefully those of you that take the moment to read this post understand that I'm frustrated and not jumping ship, I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way I do.

This is exactly how i feel, other than the part where we NEVER will one. That hurts to think about.

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NFL.  Talent > Coaching.

 

So if they give him talent.....sure.    If they give him HUGE HOLES at key positions....probably not.

 

 

Coaches who micro manage their talent and are not able to adjust on game day while using the same cookie cutter game plan trump their talent and deserve much more of the blame.

 

You could give Rivera talent and he will still allow his coordinators to play to their weakest players. What does it matter giving talent to a coach who spends the whole first half ignoring that talent and playing to a horrible OL in the running game while passing to all but the top 2 receivers? What does it matter when you rely on a 4 man rush from a DL who has no pass rush while dropping your best players into mid range pass coverage to watch the opposing QB pick and choose where they want to go?

 

When Rivera's game plan of relying on the weak links craps out and the team falls behind, then he tosses it on the talent to bail him out. And when they lose he blames the missed opportunities on the talent he put all the pressure on.

 

A majority of the errors on key plays throughout the season have come from coaches not putting their players in the best positions to win on a given play. Imagine an NBA coach who sends their 60% free throw shooter to the line while leaving the 90% free throw shooter on the bench with the game on the line. Or having a player who has no range shoot the 3 point shot while you never even try to get it in your best 3 point shooters hands. You play to your strengths and design plays to get it in their hands. Rivera fails to do that. It is up to the opposing defense to make that strength a weakness before you go to another option.

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Its not going go happen. No matter how much talent he has simply because he will get out coached. Honestly I know this team is void of talent but they don't even put up a good fight on most Sunday. Blame the players all you want this team needs someone who can out think someone besides themselves.

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The guy fails when it comes to challenges and has no idea how to manage a clock / timeouts. How many times will He decide it is best to run the minute and a half of clock and go into halftime without using any timeouts. Sean Peyton took him to school on that philosophy Thursday.

The guy is just not a game day coach so I say no chance.

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I don't think Carolina will ever win a super bowl honestly. I think their great chance was in 03 and they couldn't do it then. Every season one "leak" in the boat gets fixed and then four or five more spring up. Every season it seems like if the organization gets rid of "that one coordinator" or "that one coach" that it will all come together, but it never seems to. I'm just glad the NFL isn't the only sport I follow because being a Panther fan is anything but easy. Hopefully those of you that take the moment to read this post understand that I'm frustrated and not jumping ship, I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way I do.

Anyone who accuses someone of "jumping the ship" for stating facts, needs to jump out of one for real. Nothing you said was opinion.
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This is exactly how i feel, other than the part where we NEVER will one. That hurts to think about.

 

Man, I really hope I'm wrong about them never winning one. I don't think anything sports related would make me happier. More specifically to answer the thread question though, I don't believe Riverboat Ron will lead the Panthers to a super bowl.

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Coaches who micro manage their talent and are not able to adjust on game day while using the same cookie cutter game plan trump their talent and deserve much more of the blame.

You could give Rivera talent and he will still allow his coordinators to play to their weakest players. What does it matter giving talent to a coach who spends the whole first half ignoring that talent and playing to a horrible OL in the running game while passing to all but the top 2 receivers? What does it matter when you rely on a 4 man rush from a DL who has no pass rush while dropping your best players into mid range pass coverage to watch the opposing QB pick and choose where they want to go?

When Rivera's game plan of relying on the weak links craps out and the team falls behind, then he tosses it on the talent to bail him out. And when they lose he blames the missed opportunities on the talent he put all the pressure on.

A majority of the errors on key plays throughout the season have come from coaches not putting their players in the best positions to win on a given play. Imagine an NBA coach who sends their 60% free throw shooter to the line while leaving the 90% free throw shooter on the bench with the game on the line. Or having a player who has no range shoot the 3 point shot while you never even try to get it in your best 3 point shooters hands. You play to your strengths and design plays to get it in their hands. Rivera fails to do that. It is up to the opposing defense to make that strength a weakness before you go to another option.

When you have weaknesses as large as we do on the OL and secondary.....you can't expect a coach to scheme around it for success.

We have 4th q preseason talent.....go up against legit starters. You won't win those battles consistantly....that isn't a coaching issue. A talent one

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