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Mr. Scot

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Rivera says Newton is fine (link)

 

But Newton says he's hurt (link)

 

“Hurt is hurt. If you’re asking me, am I hurt right now? Yeah, I’m hurt. I haven’t, you know, felt 100 percent in a long time,” Newton told reporters today. “You ask me a question, is Cam Newton hurt? Yes, I’m hurt. And that’s all honesty. But can I play? Yes, I can play and I will be playing. It’s mind over matter.”

So while Rivera says that Newton isn’t injured — in the sense that he has a medical condition severe enough that it would cause him to miss a game — it’s clear that Newton is in pain, and not playing as well as he would be if he weren’t in pain.

 

I'm well familiar with the old "injured vs hurt" distinction that coaches tend toward (and so is the writer here) but it's pretty clear from Newton's comments that he isn't buying into that differentiation.

 

Frustration on Newton's part, or just being plain spoken?

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Probably just being plain spoken.

 

I think Ron has tried to be clever this year with downplaying injuries. He has consistently put out misleading statements about when someone would or would not be ready to play, apparently thinking he is fooling people. In my opinion, this strategy has worked about as well as most of his red flag challenges.

 

That may be all there is to this controversy.

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Tons of players play hurt in the NFL, right or wrong. If cam wasn't playing people would come up with reasons why he is soft or not committed to the team. He's damned if he does damned if he doesn't... I think it just speaks to who cam is as a player that he is gonna play anyway. Everyone on the team still wants a win so rivera wants to let him play until he says no more or gets injured further. Objectively this is what you want out of "competitors" subjectively it's not working out well here.

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Maybe I am being naive but why would the same coach that benched Newton to start the season so he could get healthy ignore Cam if Cam told him he was injured?

 

But on a more serious note, he has a right foot injury? That is not good news at all. Hopefully it does not become a problem. No wonder he is not running that fast.

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Tons of players play hurt in the NFL, right or wrong. If cam wasn't playing people would come up with reasons why he is soft or not committed to the team. He's damned if he does damned if he doesn't... I think it just speaks to who cam is as a player that he is gonna play anyway. Everyone on the team still wants a win so rivera wants to let him play until he says no more or gets injured further. Objectively this is what you want out of "competitors" subjectively it's not working out well here.

 

There are certain injuries that certain players can play through. There are certain injuries that nullify who a player is, like in  Cam's case, a foot injury affecting his running ability. We saw Rodgers become less effective against the Saints and eventually went to the bench when his hamstring flared up. Maybe that is what is affecting his accuracy. I hope he gets time to heal.

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Rivera says Newton is fine (link)

 

But Newton says he's hurt (link)

 

 

I'm well familiar with the old "injured vs hurt" distinction that coaches tend toward (and so is the writer here) but it's pretty clear from Newton's comments that he isn't buying into that differentiation.

 

Frustration on Newton's part, or just being plain spoken?

 

the Oline is fine.

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