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Jason Avant Cut

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Godfrey huge liability....they went out there way for to let attempt to make the team as a nickel CB. Opponents had near 100% completion on him.

Avant. Vet brought in to act like a vet....and play a smal role. Nothing changed, was what he was. Displays better late game comprehension than HC.....suddenly is canned.

Seem very different

 

 

talking out against the organization isn't acting like a vet it's acting like an idiot. There's one thing that changed. 

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Godfrey: bad at his job - gets cut - Huddle rejoices

 

Avant: bad at his job - makes comments about RR we all agree with - gets cut - Huddle explodes 

 

 

How was Avant bad at his job when he wasn't being used even CLOSE to correctly?  Was he a speed demon when we signed him and all of a sudden he's slow?  No, he's the same speed.  He's a possession receiver not a long route guy.  Our coaches were the morons using him incorrectly.  

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I personally would have picked Cotchery. But if they wanted one of their young players to have a chance, it should have been weeks ago when things just weren't working.

Sorry, what I'm saying is keep Bersin + one of those guys.  It made no sense to get two guys, who were virtually identical anyway.  Both shouldn't have made it out of training camp.  Pick the one you like better, part ways with the other, and continue looking for the speed factor we needed so badly.  It's stupid to settle for 4 slow ass guys and one potential speedster that they've failed to use properly anyway.  As Mr Scott so oft points out, this is a coaching issue, and them not being able to appropriately evaluate talent.

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It wasn't Gettleman's clock management that he criticized.

 

Gettleman has shown a penchant for retaliating against guys that speak out in his tenure here so far... 

 

Him being the trigger man behind the release of a guy he touted as a big veteran piece in revamping our WR corps (which is still LOL) when he signed him states to me that it was "Gettleman's clock management," if he is that strong in his support of his staff to do this.

 

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How was Avant bad at his job when he wasn't being used even CLOSE to correctly?  Was he a speed demon when we signed him and all of a sudden he's slow?  No, he's the same speed.  He's a possession receiver not a long route guy.  Our coaches were the morons using him incorrectly.  

 

 

I don't disagree with that. But that doesn't change that he wasn't getting open in the situations he was put in. So let the young guys try. 

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No offense, but I've seen worse prospects on the outside.

5'11 180

5'9 195 (and that's Smith now after putting on weight.)

 

Philly has never looked 180 to me, and even if he is, I don't think his frame is capable of putting much more weight on.

 

I'm not downing him though, I have said a million times, and you likely can go back and search it...  I said I wanted us to get Philly since right before or during the combine.  I'm a Philly fan, but I don't want the culture of incumbency to lead to us ignoring the position again, when ideally, we need to give Cam all the weapons we can afford.

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How was Avant bad at his job when he wasn't being used even CLOSE to correctly?  Was he a speed demon when we signed him and all of a sudden he's slow?  No, he's the same speed.  He's a possession receiver not a long route guy.  Our coaches were the morons using him incorrectly.  

 

 

Do you think the coaches moving Godfrey from S to N was using him correctly? I don't. Regardless, Godfrey was bad at his job of being a N. 

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I mean I get that this can be more attributed to getting the young guys in more the second half of the season...especiallly considering Avant was on a friendly one-year deal; but given the circumstances, player and timing, they could've found a path that didn't make them lookso bad. Perception>reality scenario.

i don't think they can control what the idiotic masses think.
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talking out against the organization isn't acting like a vet it's acting like an idiot. There's one thing that changed.

Nothing idiotic about what Avant said nor the manner he said it. He gets football.

It just looks bad bc our coach displayed horrible late situational comprehension.....and people under him "get it" better than the HC.

Idiotic is our FO the past half decade. Not Avant. You can easily state over the last 6 years....no front office has been a bigger joke than ours

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Gettleman has shown a penchant for retaliating against guys that speak out in his tenure here so far... 

 

Him being the trigger man behind the release of a guy he touted as a big veteran piece in revamping our WR corps (which is still LOL) when he signed him states to me that it was "Gettleman's clock management," if he is that strong in his support of his staff to do this.

 

 

Who besides Avant has actually come out and criticized the team and then been released?

 

And before you say Smitty, he's not an example.  He was repeatedly asked to change how he behaved in the locker room and on the field and was cut when he refused.  He and Jason Avant are polar opposites.

 

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Nothing idiotic about what Avant said nor the manner he said it. He gets football.

It just looks bad bc our coach displayed horrible late situational comprehension.....and people under him "get it" better than the HC.

Idiotic is our FO the past half decade. Not Avant

 

 

Separate the fact that we agree with Avant's comments and a player trashing his coach. Just because Avant was right doesn't mean it's ok. 

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Do you think the coaches moving Godfrey from S to N was using him correctly? I don't. Regardless, Godfrey was bad at his job of being a N. 

 

There was no way to use Godfrey correctly.  He legitimately sucked.

 

With Avant, you had possibilities.  But instead, they tried to turn him into something he wasn't.

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