Heeerrrreessss Johnny

[stirs]

I think Manziel gives us a great chance to win.  Hoyer would keep them in the game for sure

[CarolinaCoolin]

I think Luke, TD, and CJ will have a few things to say about that, especially being a home game.

Yeah they had a lot to say giving up multiple blowout losses this season. The defense last year? Absolutely I agree. This years defense has a hard time stopping the run.

[PantherFanOne]

Johnny "Football" Maziel....This over hyped geek, with his big ego rubs me the wrong way, just looking at him.Someone in an earlier post said Manziel reminded them of a faster version  of Jimmy Clausen,i tend to agree I don't believe he has the drive and attitude to be  an elite NFL QB.

[Cary Kollins]

Browns will start Manziel the remainder of the season.

*popcorn gif*

[stirs]

Hoge giving them a hard time.  Course Hoge is the village idiot at ESPN, and that is saying something.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/15/hoge-says-whoever-drafted-johnny-manziel-should-be-fired/

[TheRumGone]

Sounds like you're describing most rookie qbs making their first starts.

The whole browns offense played like poo. Their system is set up to work off of the zone read pistol runs. Their backs didn't even get 50 yards rushing against the bengals shitty run defense.

I guarantee you the bengals were hype to get to play him first. They played way out of their expectations because they didn't want to be the defense that let him go off. I feel like he'll have a much better day against our defense.

Yeah somewhat. I mean when the qb looks like he has no idea how to read a defense and is running around like a chicken with his head cut off there is something else going on besides the offense as a whole sucking.

I'm not talking about the plays where he immediately got rocked. That's on everybody

[La Pantera]

the Browns didnt have a rushing attack because they were playing from behind,because of JFs piss poor play. Johhny is garbage and he'll be out of the league after next season.

[CarolinaCoolin]

Yeah somewhat. I mean when the qb looks like he has no idea how to read a defense and is running around like a chicken with his head cut off there is something else going on besides the offense as a whole sucking.

I'm not talking about the plays where he immediately got rocked. That's on everybody

You know most qbs don't come in knowing how to read nfl defenses. That takes years of practice and work to truly get.

People are praying for this kid to fail so hard they'll pull double standards left and right.

[CarolinaCoolin]

the Browns didnt have a rushing attack because they were playing from behind,because of JFs piss poor play. Johhny is garbage and he'll be out of the league after next season.

Completely bias free post right here folks.

[SZ James (banned)]

Completely bias free post right here folks.

 

#factsonly

[TheRumGone]

You know most qbs don't come in knowing how to read nfl defenses. That takes years of practice and work to truly get.

People are praying for this kid to fail so hard they'll pull double standards left and right.

Actually most have a smidgen of a clue. The successful ones anyway

[CarolinaCoolin]

#factsonly

Ok? I don't see how that's relevant? I'm simply calling his opinion bias. Which by the word choice and tone it is. Am I wrong for pointing that out?

[teeray]

Hoge giving them a hard time. Course Hoge is the village idiot at ESPN, and that is saying something.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/15/hoge-says-whoever-drafted-johnny-manziel-should-be-fired/

What an ass. He talks about it being unfair to Manziel because he is "a 6th round talent with 1st round hype"

What is unfair is judging him that harshly after one start

I expect Manziel to play much better this weekend

[CarolinaCoolin]

Actually most have a smidgen of a clue. The successful ones anyway

Kaepernick has been to three nfccgs and he can't get past the first read. The whole can't read defenses has been a catch all term around here used to loosely.