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Couple things on the Stew fumble play.....

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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1. Bell failed to seal his block. Stew didn't have much of a chance.

 

 

2. Good lesson for Philly Brown. Philly turns his back on the play before its even over, never sees the fumble occur when he would have been in perfect position to recover.

 

The defensive coaches preach playing until the whistle. Seems like a little of that coaching needs to happen on the offense.

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1. Bell failed to seal his block. Stew didn't have much of a chance.

2. Good lesson for Philly Brown. Philly turns his back on the play before its even over, never sees the fumble occur when he would have been in perfect position to recover.

The defensive coaches preach playing until the whistle. Seems like a little of that coaching needs to happen on the offense.

I knew you were gonna somehow blame Shula.

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Oh wow, come on Philly... I wonder if Ron has seen and noticed this and will do something about it.... Probably not.

 

 Ron liked the hustle he saw out there.  Said DWill wouldn't have fumbled.  He pointed out that Bell did his job and did it at a high level but both the RB and the TE failed to do the basics and really should thank Bell for being there.  His final thought on the fumble was that you just have to understand that its a process and sometimes a fumble is not a bad play.  The defense had great field position.

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You can't say Bell did not seal his block. He blocking looked consistent with an inside run so unless we know that was what was NOT called, you can't blame him.

The obvious thing is Brown. Hopefully he learns from this.

 

Think you absolutely can say that Bell didn't seal that edge, the initial defensive contact was made by his defensive end, (#86?) which meant Stewart was turned and was carrying less momentum into his original tackler. 

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It looks like the whole blocking scheme broke down, and the fact that Philly didn't engage in a block on one of the outside guys makes me wonder if the play was a possible smoke screen out the left and DA opted for the handoff.  The play was essentially blown up by the outside defenders coming up to stuff the corner.

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Think you absolutely can say that Bell didn't seal that edge, the initial defensive contact was made by his defensive end, (#86?) which meant Stewart was turned and was carrying less momentum into his original tackler.

Yes you can say that and you'll be correct but that'll be being simplistic. Try understanding what I wrote.

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If this was dwill he would be getting crucified over this. Yet stewy fumbled twice and the excuse are here. Hm......

 

It is pretty clear the problem here....

 

The saints game was a clear fluke for our running game. We still lack the right pieces. Neither running back is ideal anymore and still too many problems on the oline, rookies, bell. The play calling could also improve, but also we have DA, so the Cam threat isn't real anymore which is a rather big deal for our run game.

 

You can't say Bell did not seal his block. He blocking looked consistent with an inside run so unless we know that was what was NOT called, you can't blame him.

The obvious thing is Brown. Hopefully he learns from this.

 

What difference does it make? If Byron was worth a spill of beans he would have bulldozed that guy into next year, but when does that ever happen?

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If this was dwill he would be getting crucified over this. Yet stewy fumbled twice and the excuse are here. Hm......

It is pretty clear the problem here....

The saints game was a clear fluke for our running game. We still lack the right pieces. Neither running back is ideal anymore and still too many problems on the oline, rookies, bell. The play calling could also improve, but also we have DA, so the Cam threat isn't real anymore which is a rather big deal for our run game.

What difference does it make? If Byron was worth a spill of beans he would have bulldozed that guy into next year, but when does that ever happen?

Why Bell alone? Which of the linemen are bulldozing anyone? See the guy who recovered the fumble? That was Kalil's block.

Maybe if Kalil was worth a spill of beans, he will hold his block long enough for a panther to recover the ball.

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