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Panthers Sign Michael Oher

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gettlemanjack Newbie

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from an article on the Panthers signing Oher:

"Oher was one of the worst offensive tackles in football last season. Pro Football Focus ranked him 50th among 54 eligible tackles in its pass-blocking efficiency metric, the fifth straight season he's fallen outside of the top 30. Long viewed as a below-average pass-blocker, his 2014 campaign all but ended his chances of having a guaranteed starting spot.

Over the last three seasons, the first two being in Baltimore, Oher allowed 27.5 sacks, per The Washington Post . It's possible Oher would have had his third straight season with 10 or more sacks allowed had he not missed the last five games with a toe injury

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The pass-blocking woes do not appear to be going away, and while Oher has ability as a run-blocker, it's only sporadically there on film. ... According to Pro Football Focus ' grading system, Oher has gotten progressively worse each season. More disconcertingly, Oher hasn't been a net-positive player since that initial campaign. ... He'll likely compete for the starting right tackle spot [for the Panthers] while working on the type of deal where it isn't too complicated to move on if necessary."

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2386314-michael-oher-to-panthers-latest-contract-details-comments-and-reaction

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Not sure who the negative nancy's wanted us to pick-up this early in the off-season.      Bulaga is the best available tackle once FA officially begins......and he will probably cost an arm and a leg,  since he is only a little bit sucky.

 

The tackles under Bulaga......have basically been horrible or old...  So..it's going to be a crapshoot no matter who we pick up.   Even Bulaga is a massive gamble.

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Well he in effect goes after BPAs who can have the most impact. The ones with the most impact in the first typically fill the most vital holes a la KB and Star. After the first, the BPA method is clear...but for a 1st round investment, it tends to revolve around a major need regardless of the draft strategy.

the beauty of going BPA, especially in the first several rounds, is the player is almost guaranteed to have a big Impact on the team.

But I'm not going to argue with ya.

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gettlemanjack has over the course of the past few months consistently posted many tweets-both positive and negative-that come up from a variety of topics.

There's a reason nobody has anything kind to say about Michael oher and it isn't because gettlemanjack hates him.

If you want to get giddy about the Oher signing, then by all means do so. Hey, there even is a small measure of reason for optimism with the Matsko connection. But pretending like you don't understand why the rest of the world wouldn't jump all over Oher over the way he's played in recent years is buffoonery.

I understand what you are saying. But, he made his point with the 53 previous quotes that he posted. He had a point at first...now he is just coming across as a douche.

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gettlemanjack has over the course of the past few months consistently posted many tweets-both positive and negative-that come up from a variety of topics.

There's a reason nobody has anything kind to say about Michael oher and it isn't because gettlemanjack hates him.

If you want to get giddy about the Oher signing, then by all means do so. Hey, there even is a small measure of reason for optimism with the Matsko connection. But pretending like you don't understand why the rest of the world wouldn't jump all over Oher over the way he's played in recent years is buffoonery.

 

 

So what you're saying is that, as a fan, if you don't agree with even a SINGLE move your team makes, you're are *required* to be a douche.

 

Nice to know where you stand.  Thanks.

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I don't understand the hate either.

Nobody is disputing the dude has had several bad seasons.

Talent wise, he's the best tackle we've had since Otah.

He's healthy, and has back with his best oline coach.

Seriously, that's a lot to like.

Not expecting him to be an all pro.

he doesn't have to be, for this to be a success.

Seriously.

But lets continue to bash the dude.

And can we come 7p with better excuses to bash him other than a movie had been made of his very successful college career?

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pantherj after Gettleman signs an available FA tackle: THIS IS A WALMART SIGNING!

 

pantherj after Gettleman hypothetically signs no FA tackles (since none above the WalMart level are legitimately available): WHAT THE FUG ARE YOU DOING GETTLEDOUCHE NOT SIGNING A TACKLE!

 

 

I wouldn't have a problem with not signing a FA tackle.

 

We're pained into a corner in that we have to acquire a good OT. The alternative is possibly watching Cam screaming and clutching his knee or some other body part. Chandler (terrible), a player Gettleman gave a 2 year contract to and RR started, came inches away from destroying Cam's knees on several occasions. I don't believe in signing terrible players to our team. Gettleman does. He signed terrible WRs, and then blamed our cap problems after the fact. Now we've signed a terrible OT. I bitched about it. You're damn right.

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Heck, we saw plays last year where Bell got confused and just stood there blocking nobody while guys ran right past him.

 

 

I've watched the 1st 2 games of Oher from last season. If you watched them, you would definitely say he's a lot better than Bell. NFL Game Pass is the poo

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I would definitely say Oher's a lot better than Bell.

sure about that? because Oher allows more sacks per snap than Bell does. At RT, Oher allowed 1 sack per 108-109 snaps, while at RT, Bell only allowed 1 sack per 116-118 snaps. At LT, Oher allowed 1 sack per 92 snaps, while Bell only allowed 1 sack per 109 sacks

Sacks Allowed

Michael Oher

2009 Bal 8.00

2010 Bal 7.00

2011 Bal 5.75

2012 Bal 11.50 in 1058 snaps - 1 per 92 snaps [Oher was LT]

2013 Bal 10.00 in 1081 snaps - 1 per 108 snaps [Oher was RT]

2014 Ten 6.00 in 651 snaps - 1 per =109 snaps [Oher was RT]

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=9287

Byron Bell

2011 Car 4.75

2012 Car 8.00 in 943 snaps - 1 in 118 snaps [bell was RT]

2013 Car 8.75 in 1014 snaps - 1 in 116 snaps [bell was RT]

2014 Car 9.25 in 1009 snaps - 1 in 109 snaps [bell was LT]

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=25415

snap count:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

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sure about that? because Oher allows more sacks per snap than Bell does. At RT, Oher allowed 1 sack per 108-109 snaps, while at RT, Bell only allowed 1 sack per 116-118 snaps. At LT, Oher allowed 1 sack per 92 snaps, while Bell only allowed 1 sack per 109 sacks

 

 

Bell also had an advantage of having an extremely mobile qb

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