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NFL states they will 'no longer rely on the legal system'

Mr. Scot

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Welcome to how the world works, NFL players.

If I act like a dumbass and conduct myself in a way that makes my company look bad, I will no longer be employed.

 

 

But like in most companies, it is a popularity contest and how brown your nose is. 

 

Imagine the horror if cash cows Peyton Manning or Tom Brady gets arrested.

or

The PR nightmare for suspending a drug addicted NFL owner 10 games for being charged with 4 felonies.

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I really dont care what policy the NFL uses just as long as they are consistent about it.

This is ultimately my gripe right here and why I keep commenting in these threads.

The NFL makes up rules as they go along. Players getting DUI charges right now are common and forgotten. If a marquee player gets drunk and kills a bus full of children, you can't then say oh hey other guy who also got a DUI your suspension is now 27 games because MADD is picketing outside of stadiums and are image looks bad, even though the suspension was two games when you committed your violation and yours had nothing to do with the other guys.

It's not that these players are victims and I feel bad for them, it's that the NFL makes a mockery of everything they have collectively bargained for just because they feel like it.

This is also why the NFLPA is a joke and gets buttfuged every time there are negotiations for anything.

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Same thing that happens with every employee of every company....your company can fire or suspend you for violation for violation of any company policy.  They do not need a legal guilty verdict to do so.

Except in the scenario I suggested, there was no violation of company policy according to the court of law.  The legal system has found Joe Blow innocent, after the employer suggested guilt.  Of course, I'm talking about more serious offenses, such as domestic violence, and things like that, which are going to require court proceedings to get straightened out.

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Personally, I would just suspend them from the time they get charged until their trial. If they are found innocent then they get the money from the time off, if guilty then oh well. This would end all the making up stuff as you go bs that goes on now.

I'm sure there are flaws in my plan but I really don't think its the NFL's job to be the morality police. We have courts for a reason

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Like it or not, the post Ray Rice video NFL is going to be a very different animal than the one you saw before.

The guys that are smart will realize this and keep their noses clean.

The ones that are dumb? Well...I expect they'll do what the dumb ones always do.

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The NFL has to fall into line with their punishments.     What are the rules for punishment if the punishment guidelines keep changing?  Will they add 4 more games to the suspension total everytime a player gets charged of DV?     Will the next player have a 14 game suspension?  Then the one after that will have an 18 game suspension and so on?

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Except in the scenario I suggested, there was no violation of company policy according to the court of law. The legal system has found Joe Blow innocent, after the employer suggested guilt. Of course, I'm talking about more serious offenses, such as domestic violence, and things like that, which are going to require court proceedings to get straightened out.

A court of law doesn't decide whether a violation of company policy occurred. The company does.

And if the company says that just getting arrested for domestic violence is enough to get you dismissed, that's their right.

Fair or not, that's reality for pretty much everybody who's employed by someone else. Except, up to this point, the NFL.

They're now going to have to follow the same rules as everyone else.

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They've lost the prior two cases based on the argument that they were applying new rules to cases that happened before those rules were in place.

That's not going to apply to anybody else in the future. The rules are in force now and everybody knows it.

At the same time as you know, the CBA has to clearly state the new rules, and they have to be agreed upon by the NFL and the players union. Unless I missed something, and it's quite possible I did in the offseason or before, the NFL is making rules up as it goes along, which is bad for business

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Personally, I would just suspend them from the time they get charged until their trial. If they are found innocent then they get the money from the time off, if guilty then oh well. This would end all the making up stuff as you go bs that goes on now.

I'm sure there are flaws in my plan but I really don't think its the NFL's job to be the morality police. We have courts for a reason

Actually I like the idea.

But let's be real. The NFL isn't 'protecting morality' here. They're protecting their image, which they legitimately have a right to do. And as a company dependent on fan goodwill, they're wise to do.

If the story broke that the an employee of the local Chevy dealer was caught on tape beating his wife, and the dealership said they were not taking any action against him, what do you think the public reaction would be?

The league took it in the ass over Ray Rice, and they're not about to let that happen again.

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At the same time as you know, the CBA has to clearly state the new rules, and they have to be agreed upon by the NFL and the players union. Unless I missed something, and it's quite possible I did in the offseason or before, the NFL is making rules up as it goes along, which is bad for business

They did indeed agree to the new rules, probably as much as anything because after the Rice video, they risked being seen as defending an abuser.

Mind you, they still appealed, but again that was on the basis that he was already punished.

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At the same time as you know, the CBA has to clearly state the new rules, and they have to be agreed upon by the NFL and the players union. Unless I missed something, and it's quite possible I did in the offseason or before, the NFL is making rules up as it goes along, which is bad for business

The legal argument would be is the NFL in "breach of contract" with the NFLPA . If so there punishment would be voided in a arbitration or court if law

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