NFL states they will 'no longer rely on the legal system'

[beastson]

He'll win his appeal.

[Snake]

Honestly, with most major corporations, if you're accused of a crime - especially domestic violence or a sex crime - it's true that they're not going to launch their own investigation. More than likely, they'll just go ahead and fire you.

Wanna sue? Okay. the company will probably cite their right to protect their image and assets as well as their duty to protect female employees from a hostile environment (something which a potential abuser in their midst would create). And in all likelihood, your case will get thrown out.

I'm not sure what your work experience has been, but the truth is even in states that recognize you as having a right to work, no one can say they have a right to work for a particular employer. So if that employer terminates you,that's pretty much it.

The courts have backed up the rights of companies to fire an employee who posted something unflattering on social media. What makes you think they'd overturn the firing of someone charged with an actual crime?

Problem is the NFL is not a company and does not pay players. Even if a company terminates you for image they still have to pay you unemployment. So is the NFL going to take over payment? I think not, and there is the true problem.

[Davidson Deac II]

Problem is the NFL is not a company and does not pay players. Even if a company terminates you for image they still have to pay you unemployment. So is the NFL going to take over payment? I think not, and there is the true problem.

 

The NFL is not, but the individual teams are.

[top dawg]

Same thing that happens with every employee of every company....your company can fire or suspend you for violation for violation of any company policy.  They do not need a legal guilty verdict to do so.

 

This is true, but when unions are a part of the equation, companies have to follow the rules that are within the CBA.  As long as they don't run afoul of the CBA, then they can do what they want, but the CBA is there to protect members from being run roughshod over.  What a company can and cannot do is limited by the CBA, state and federal law.  That being said, I fully expect the next NFL CBA to be the most contentious in its history.  I would hate it, but I could see us losing a season behind it if all parties involved don't play much nicer than they did last time.

 

Expect the best, but prepare yourself for the worst.  I don't know if you're old enough to remember the NFL strike and scabs playing on Sundays, but the drop in quality was very obvious.  It was second rate football.

[Moorgan]

There'd have to be enough evidence to make it credible. And frankly. if there's enough evidence that the police are willing to arrest you, then there's probably enough to fire you.

That's not how it worked in First Blood. He was trying to visit his friend from Vietnam and the Sheriff didn't like "his kind". Long haired drifters weren't wanted in his town.

[jtm]

This is how the NFL should treat off field issues...just like any normal employer would.

I'm so over these rich athletes thinking they are above the law and getting arrested without showing any remorse.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right.

[Panthers8969]

NFL announces it will try to secede from the U.S. Be Goodell has that big of an ego and is that big of a DB

[Panthers8969]

This is how the NFL should treat off field issues...just like any normal employer would.

I'm so over these rich athletes thinking they are above the law and getting arrested without showing any remorse.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right.

Athletes think they are above the law? This thread literally says the opposite. Athletes want to be held to the law not some baby's made up rules

[Snake]

The NFL is not, but the individual teams are.

Individual teams are not suspending players. That's the whole problem in a nutshell.

[Nick_81]

Greg Hardy was arrested and charged with assault and communicating death threats.

The victim alleged he threw her into a tub, slammed her arm in a toilet seat, threw her on a futon covered in firearms, slammed her into a wall, choked her and threatened to kill her.

There was enough evidence to charge him, and enough evidence for the judge to find him guilty.

Are you seriously saying that most employers would wait until after the jury trial to decide whether or not to punish or fire someone if that was their employee?

You can't be serious.

Again, I'm not talking about Greg Hardy.  Get that through your head.  I'm talking about how they will no longer rely on the legal system, and how that could affect future incidents.

[Nick_81]

Like previously said...90% of guys would be fired if they were charged with what Hardy was. And the other 10% would have been fired when a judge found them guilty...even though NC gives you a do over with a jury trial.

Add to that the crap he has posted on social media.

He is an idiot.

Oh, I completely agree man.  I'm not really thinking about the Hardy situation.  I'm completely past that.  I'm just thinking about what could happen in the future.  No company is going to launch their own investigation on such charges, to determine innocence/guilt, and punish an employee based on that.  We know how easy it is to have someone arrested.  Honestly, I don't care what they do, or want to do.  Just thinking about the scenario that gets them in a predicament for doing it this way.  It doesn't seem wise.

[jtm]

Athletes think they are above the law? This thread literally says the opposite. Athletes want to be held to the law not some baby's made up rules

If you don't like their rules, go play in the CFL or don't put yourself in situations where you can get into trouble...aka be an adult!

[Nick_81]

Except If you're in a union or work for the government, you're employer can fire you for any damn reason they want except for race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.

 

You seem to be surprised by this?

Why would I be surprised by that?  It's made clear when anyone is hired.  This is a whole different beast though.  They're doing their own investigations for these situations.  Being judge/jury/executioner themselves.  It's not very smart, IMO.  Could cause big legal problems.

[SpeedOFLight]

I don't know how I feel about this. Everyone company I work for those have policies in order where they can decide on your employment status based on incidents in and out of work. My thing is then, is it making the NFL above the law? Hardy situation aside, what if a player gets accused of said crime and there was not enough evidence to convict him? Can the NFL look at the evidence themselves and then suspend player just because of what they think? To me that is not right. Kind of like a double jeopardy? Maybe not the same thing but you get my drift. I guess bottom line would be, try not to put yourself into these situations but sometimes things happen..