Cam needs to step up this year

[rayzor]

If we can stabilize the OL play and Stew stay healthy, the resulting run game will cause Cam to have a hugely successful year.

 

totally agreed. part of stabilizing that OL play is deciding early on, as in during OTAs, who the starters are going to be and letting them get a poo ton of reps with each other and with cam all during training camp so they can be gelling when the season starts instead of using the first few weeks for them to get used to each other.

 

the good thing is we have the interior of that line set already.

[stirs]

Glad I am only reading page 22 cause is sounds like the same ole, same ole.

 

La'el looks like he and his agent were lying before and he just wanted to stay close to home.

 

Unless of course they are gonna let someone go or not resign them after this season.

 

Oops, wrong thread, not sure how this happened, oh well

[iamhubby1]

I'm trying to think of a quarterback in the history of the NFL who hasn't had to work on those things only 4 seasons into his career.

I know I'm late. Just wanted to add that MOST QBs get 3-4 years in college, then still need 3-4 years in the Pros to get it all together. Cam only got 1 year of college. He was behind the curve from the start.

Not really. Cam is 24th on the all-time passer rating list right now. Luck and Cam are very close (I am just too lazy to look it up). Wilson and Kap might have higher career ratings right now, but career passer rating doesn't kick in until you've thrown 1500 passes, so some of these guys have a ways to go before we see a clearer picture. But the metric doesn't even take running into account, where Cam obviously excels.

I predict that within three years after the big boys retire, Cam will be top 10 on a consistent basis.

All the top QBs are wiley Vets. By the time they are gone, Cam will be right where they are. Not really fair to compare the two. Folks always say, it is tough to fool an old vet. Cam is still a young vet. If he is still struggling after 10+ years. Then I will admit he may have missed the mark.

[stirs]

Yep, the 1 year in a running offense was the main reason I was nervous about taking him, or any qb for that matter, with the number one pick.

 

An accountant by degree, I normally play the numbers

[MadHatter]

I want to see everyone step up this year...especially Cam. Not because I think his play has been an issue, but because as the qb if his team elevated play by him will have the greatest impact.

[BigCat]

Probably unlike most of the huddle, I am not 100% sure Cam can lead us to a Superbowl win or become that great QB we hope and expected him to be. He has been inconsistent since coming into the league.

Yes, he has had some significant limitations (OL and OC) but OL should be much improved this year.

I would like to be able to see him with an actual OC who has produced top 10 offenses but unfortunately, I do not see Shula getting fired due to our defense keeping all the games close. I hope I am wrong on that.

So, Cam has to take that next step WITH Shula. As of right now, I am weary of investing the farm on a guy that is as inconsistent as Cam.

Although you have valid concerns, the one that should be held back is Cam's inconsistency. List any QB that could have succeed with the lack of protection that's been the OL? "ON PAPER, the line this year should be the best option in as many years, we should see a different Cam AND team this year.

[CPantherKing]

Come on Cam!!! I know you are only the 2nd most productive 4 year QB in NFL history, but we cannot keep you unless you surpass Dan Marino and take that #1 spot for 5th year QBs.

 

Otherwise, we will have to replace you with a QB that will not even come close to the top 10 QBs relative to their years in the NFL.

 

First 4 years in the NFL and you have only produced over 17000 yards, which no other QB in NFL history has surpassed in their first 4 seasons, and 115 TDs!

 

We need more from you Cam in order to believe you are a capable QB.

 

Ridiculous. Be glad you have Cam and focus on the weak parts of the team. It is just so easy to replace a QB like Cam, right? Apparently you forget Kerry Collins, Steve Beuerlein, Jeff Lewis, Chris Weinke, Rodney Peete, Jake Delhomme, and Jimmy Clausen. So easy to replace a QB like Cam, right?

 

Also, Cam has a 59.5% completion percentage. Peyton Manning and Dan Marino both were at 61%. Andrew Luck is at 58.5%. They all have errant throws. Then you factor in that Cam has one of the lowest INT% of all these QBs in their first 4 years in the NFL. He throws fewer interceptions than the greats, and even the golden boy Andrew Luck on a per game basis.

 

You would have questioned hall of fame QBs like Jim Kelly, John Elway, Joe Montana, Warren Moon and Troy Aikman based on their production over the first 4 years of their career. The difference is those QBs had better coaching and teams surrounding them, which allowed them to get to the Super Bowl early in their careers. Some of them never even won a Super Bowl or they had to wait to win it at the end of their career.

[heelinfine]

Come on Cam!!! I know you are only the 2nd most productive 4 year QB in NFL history, but we cannot keep you unless you surpass Dan Marino and take that #1 spot for 5th year QBs.

Otherwise, we will have to replace you with a QB that will not even come close to the top 10 QBs relative to their years in the NFL.

First 4 years in the NFL and you have only produced over 17000 yards, which no other QB in NFL history has surpassed in their first 4 seasons, and 115 TDs!

We need more from you Cam in order to believe you are a capable QB.

Ridiculous. Be glad you have Cam and focus on the weak parts of the team. It is just so easy to replace a QB like Cam, right? Apparently you forget Kerry Collins, Steve Beuerlein, Jeff Lewis, Chris Weinke, Rodney Peete, Jake Delhomme, and Jimmy Clausen. So easy to replace a QB like Cam, right?

Also, Cam has a 59.5% completion percentage. Peyton Manning and Dan Marino both were at 61%. Andrew Luck is at 58.5%. They all have errant throws. Then you factor in that Cam has one of the lowest INT% of all these QBs in their first 4 years in the NFL. He throws fewer interceptions than the greats, and even the golden boy Andrew Luck on a per game basis.

You would have questioned hall of fame QBs like Jim Kelly, John Elway, Joe Montana, Warren Moon and Troy Aikman based on their production over the first 4 years of their career. The difference is those QBs had better coaching and teams surrounding them, which allowed them to get to the Super Bowl early in their careers. Some of

them never even won a Super Bowl or they had to wait to win it at the end of their career.

Hell of a post dude.

[BigBoss]

Come on Cam!!! I know you are only the 2nd most productive 4 year QB in NFL history, but we cannot keep you unless you surpass Dan Marino and take that #1 spot for 5th year QBs.

Otherwise, we will have to replace you with a QB that will not even come close to the top 10 QBs relative to their years in the NFL.

First 4 years in the NFL and you have only produced over 17000 yards, which no other QB in NFL history has surpassed in their first 4 seasons, and 115 TDs!

We need more from you Cam in order to believe you are a capable QB.

Ridiculous. Be glad you have Cam and focus on the weak parts of the team. It is just so easy to replace a QB like Cam, right? Apparently you forget Kerry Collins, Steve Beuerlein, Jeff Lewis, Chris Weinke, Rodney Peete, Jake Delhomme, and Jimmy Clausen. So easy to replace a QB like Cam, right?

Also, Cam has a 59.5% completion percentage. Peyton Manning and Dan Marino both were at 61%. Andrew Luck is at 58.5%. They all have errant throws. Then you factor in that Cam has one of the lowest INT% of all these QBs in their first 4 years in the NFL. He throws fewer interceptions than the greats, and even the golden boy Andrew Luck on a per game basis.

You would have questioned hall of fame QBs like Jim Kelly, John Elway, Joe Montana, Warren Moon and Troy Aikman based on their production over the first 4 years of their career. The difference is those QBs had better coaching and teams surrounding them, which allowed them to get to the Super Bowl early in their careers. Some of them never even won a Super Bowl or they had to wait to win it at the end of their career.

cam has been very good but come playoff time he needs to be better for us to win a Super Bowl. In Seattle and Arizona he had some pretty bad throws, including an awful pick 6. It would be significant if Ron would surround him with a solid not even great oline and also in Seattle and guys like kelvin when you can catch the dang ball, catch the dang ball

[dcpanther89]

it's never been about cam stepping up if we are going to be realistic he has stepped up the past 3 seasons towards the end of the year when it seemed like everyone wanted to mesh and buy into what the coaching staff had been preaching all year it just seems like what keeps him or the team as whole from going over the hump was lack of talent in key areas mainly receiver offensive line and db now year to year they have upgraded those positions but not all at once honestly i feel as though this year is the last stepping stone before finally making the push to be a perennial winner we are just a LT solid DB or two away as long as we keep making the right decisions towards the long term plan and don't jump at what seems right here and now i feel the 2016 season will be the panthers year to contend for a super bowl 

[tiger7_88]

Why is this thread 23 pages long?

 

 

Because it WAS 22 pages long and enough people made follow-up posts to add another page.  

[MedellinHeel]

Come on Cam!!! I know you are only the 2nd most productive 4 year QB in NFL history, but we cannot keep you unless you surpass Dan Marino and take that #1 spot for 5th year QBs.

 

Otherwise, we will have to replace you with a QB that will not even come close to the top 10 QBs relative to their years in the NFL.

 

First 4 years in the NFL and you have only produced over 17000 yards, which no other QB in NFL history has surpassed in their first 4 seasons, and 115 TDs!

 

We need more from you Cam in order to believe you are a capable QB.

 

Ridiculous. Be glad you have Cam and focus on the weak parts of the team. It is just so easy to replace a QB like Cam, right? Apparently you forget Kerry Collins, Steve Beuerlein, Jeff Lewis, Chris Weinke, Rodney Peete, Jake Delhomme, and Jimmy Clausen. So easy to replace a QB like Cam, right?

 

Also, Cam has a 59.5% completion percentage. Peyton Manning and Dan Marino both were at 61%. Andrew Luck is at 58.5%. They all have errant throws. Then you factor in that Cam has one of the lowest INT% of all these QBs in their first 4 years in the NFL. He throws fewer interceptions than the greats, and even the golden boy Andrew Luck on a per game basis.

 

You would have questioned hall of fame QBs like Jim Kelly, John Elway, Joe Montana, Warren Moon and Troy Aikman based on their production over the first 4 years of their career. The difference is those QBs had better coaching and teams surrounding them, which allowed them to get to the Super Bowl early in their careers. Some of them never even won a Super Bowl or they had to wait to win it at the end of their career.

 

so he is good and doesnt need to step up his game to another level? 

 

gotcha 

[Oudaman90]

so he is good and doesnt need to step up his game to another level?

gotcha

He does, but let's not act like he's Vince Young. Cam will ball out if:

1. His o-line can give him adequate protection.

2. He is allowed to stay in the pocket and run the offense to a large extent.

His best quarterback play was the first few games of the season. Mediocre o-line, bad defense, no running game, slow receivers. And he was still dealing.

The offense will be better. And Cam will step up big time...

[mc52beast]

Do you mean he has to step up in the pocket because his protection will regularly break down???