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All Oher has to do is just be bad by NFL standards and he will be an upgrade.

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I think people have this notion that Oher has to play at a very high level to be any kind of upgrade and I disagree. Let me explain further. There are two kinds of "bad" in the NFL. There is bad by NFL standards and then there is so terrible that not only do you belong on a NFL field you dont belong anywhere near the stadium. Byron Bell was the latter. So what makes a player just bad and what makes a player terrible?

Well in my opinion a bad LT is someone who only holds his block on a pass play for a couple to a few seconds, a bad LT atleast gives the QB a chance to get the ball snapped and atleast get to the pocket.. A terrible LT on the other hand stands there with a "deer in the headlights" look as soon as the ball is snapped and we are just counting our lucky stars that the QB was able to not fumble after getting walloped as soon as the ball was snapped.

A bad LT "only" pushes his man just enough on a running play for a RB to only gain a couple yds or so, a terrible LT is when the RB gets tackled as soon as he is handed the ball and gets tackled for a loss behind the LOS.

And lastly, a bad LT may not be the best blocker but one thing is for certain, you can atleast count on him to never block his own teammate, a terrible LT is so lost that you might even find him blocking his own teammate at times :::cough Byron Bell cough:::::

So yes, as crazy as it sounds, there is a difference between being bad by NFL standards and being downright terrible. Another good example would be QBs like Geno Smith/Josh Mccown vs Ryan Lindley/Tim T3bow. Geno Smith and Josh Mccown are bad by NFL standards, they are bad yes but you atleast get the sense they can atleast be somewhat capable from time to time to atleast move the chains a time or two. With Ryan Lindley and Tim T3bow you go into every game knowing there is absloutley 0 chance they can will be somewhat capable. The latter is the class I would put Byron Bell in.

Another good example would be Haruki Nakumara and Roman Harper. We can all agree Roman Harper is bad, but I bet we can all also agree that he is not "never come close to an NFL field ever again" terrible that Nakamura was, catch my drift now? With Harper just simply being bad and not terrible, he is an big upgrade over a player like Nakamura.

The bottom line is we dont need Oher to play like an all pro, if he is simply just bad by NFL standards and not terrible, our O line will be quite alright and I am 100% confident Oher can atleast be that.

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There was the first Star Wars Trilogy, and then there was Jar Jar. I'm just getting ready to crash after a wedding and after party, so I hope this still makes sense after I wake up.

Panther United, I love your passion behind your posts, but... I can't even be mad, you called Shaq.

P.S. I agree with your post. There's no way it can get worse than Bell.

P.P.S. I already took my contacts out and can't really finish reading your post

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I don't think you understand just how make or break the left tackle position can be for an NFL offense.

 

If the goal is just to stumble into another division title, maybe. But settling for mediocrity certainly will not work if the goal is to compete with the best of the NFC, and to win a Super Bowl, which it should be.

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I don't think Bell or Oher are as bad as everyone thinks. Forget performance, the most pressing concern with Oher is availability. Can he stay healthy? Even then our 2nd string offensive tackle is probably Jonathan Martin which is a massive upgrade from David Foucalt.

 

And TheRed I don't consider the Left Tackle "Make or Break". Last year when things were going bad pressure was getting home from every angle. An unnamed player on the Baltimore Ravens said Bell was the best lineman on tape when they studied us. Our biggest problem last year, even at the end of the season was we were vulnerable at both Tackle positions. We had a Tight End and Running Back helping Remmers and Bell was on an island. We need to get to the point where we only have one weakness that needs help. 

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