Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Panthers OTA Notes - Week 2

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

EightyNine Newbie

EightyNine

Posted
Posted

Cotchery is about 90% a lock.  He's the only real WR veteran on the team (Ginn doesn't really count in that aspect as he's still learning the position in his own right).  It would be down right shocking if Bersin made it over Cotchery. 

​I hear this a lot...that Cotchery's veteran presence is going to help him make the team, since we dont have other receivers with his kind of experience..

How far can being a veteran presence really take you?  If it comes down to him and one other guy, how much better does the other guy have to be before that outweighs the value of being a vet?  I feel like being a vet shouldnt make much of a difference..maybe if they are about equal, that could be the deciding factor.. I'd rather take the guy that has a better chance of catching the ball when you throw it to him.

Can't Ricky Proehl just be our vet presence for the group?

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
X-Clown on 1 Experienced

X-Clown on 1

Posted
Posted

​I hear this a lot...that Cotchery's veteran presence is going to help him make the team, since we dont have other receivers with his kind of experience..

How far can being a veteran presence really take you?  If it comes down to him and one other guy, how much better does the other guy have to be before that outweighs the value of being a vet?  I feel like being a vet shouldnt make much of a difference..maybe if they are about equal, that could be the deciding factor.. I'd rather take the guy that has a better chance of catching the ball when you throw it to him.

Can't Ricky Proehl just be our vet presence for the group?

​Valid point, but honestly I think only DG and RR can answer those questions.  How comfortable are they not having a veteran WR on the field during game day?  Proehl can't do nearly as much from the sidelines as a vet WR can do in the huddle.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Soul Rebel Experienced

Soul Rebel

Posted
Posted

As a State fan, I love Cotchery here, but could Ginn not provide that 'vet' presence and allow someone else that can contribute more, to take Cotch's spot?  If nobody else can overtake Cotchery, then I'm good with him on the roster, but just wondering if Ginn and Olsen are enough of a vet presence.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
X-Clown on 1 Experienced

X-Clown on 1

Posted
Posted

As a State fan, I love Cotchery here, but could Ginn not provide that 'vet' presence and allow someone else that can contribute more, to take Cotch's spot?  If nobody else can overtake Cotchery, then I'm good with him on the roster, but just wondering if Ginn and Olsen are enough of a vet presence.

​My personal opinion about Ginn bringing that veteran experience is no, he's does not fill that void.  I love the guy and think he's dangerous where ever he is on the field.  But in reality, he's still learning how to play WR.  He's been in the league for 8 years or so, but he's always been a return man first and a WR project second.  Most 30 year WR's have mastered the position enough to teach it to the younger guys, and Ginn certainly has not.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
pantherclaw Grand Master

pantherclaw

Posted
Posted (edited)

Veteran leadership. 

It needs to be on the field.

If it could be provided by coaches, then there would zero need for any veterans on any team. 

Bersin has already proven to be a reliable receiver. All he does is catch everything thrown his way, and convert 3rd downs. Like Ricky Proehl did during his playing days. That's not good enough, the masses say. He better not make the team. Yes, cause we're so good we don't need good reliable receivers that'll grow with Can and the offense. 

We can't  the team keep both Cotchery and Bersin? Cause they aren't fast? Somebody better start calling every team in the league, and let them know they are wasting precious roster spots to talented, hard working possession receivers.

Edited by pantherclaw
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
EightyNine Newbie

EightyNine

Posted
Posted (edited)

Veteran leadership. 

It needs to be on the field.

If it could be provided by coaches, then there would zero need for any veterans on any team. 

Bersin has already proven to be a reliable receiver. All he does is catch everything thrown his way, and convert 3rd downs. Like Ricky Proehl did during his playing days. That's not good enough, the masses say. He better not make the team. Yes, cause we're so good we don't need good reliable receivers that'll grow with Can and the offense. 

We can't  the team keep both Cotchery and Bersin? Cause they aren't fast? Somebody better start calling every team in the league, and let them know they are wasting precious roster spots to talented, hard working possession receivers.

​I completely agree that veteran leadership on the field is extremely valuable..provided that those vets are able to produce as well as the younger guys can..  If you have a vet that can still play at a high level, then he becomes even more valuable.. But if they cant produce like the younger guys, is it really worth it?  

Very rarely do you hear of a team that is trying to get older.

Edited by EightyNine
Link to comment
Share on other sites
pantherclaw Grand Master

pantherclaw

Posted
Posted (edited)

To say cotchery isn't producing would be living in denial. 

He has never been a true number one or number 2 receiver in his pro career. So stop expecting more from him. The coaches and the team love him, but fans will say anything to throw trash at him.

Edited by pantherclaw
Link to comment
Share on other sites
EightyNine Newbie

EightyNine

Posted
Posted

To say cotchery isn't producing would be living in denial. 

He has never been a true number one or number 2 receiver in his pro career. So stop expecting more from him. The coaches and the team love him, but fans will say anything to throw trash at him.

​Not sure if you thought I was saying that Cotchery hasnt produced or cant produce.

My statement was simply a response to others assuming that Cotchery will make the team based on the reasoning that he is our veteran presence for the WR group.  I think that if he is going to make the team, it will be because he is better/more dependable than some of the younger guys.  Not just because he can give the younger guys some tips or guidance.

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
pantherclaw Grand Master

pantherclaw

Posted
Posted

​Not sure if you thought I was saying that Cotchery hasnt produced or cant produce.

My statement was simply a response to others assuming that Cotchery will make the team based on the reasoning that he is our veteran presence for the WR group.  I think that if he is going to make the team, it will be because he is better/more dependable than some of the younger guys.  Not just because he can give the younger guys some tips or guidance.

 

100% agreed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bozarden Newbie

Bozarden

Posted
Posted

Veteran leadership. 

It needs to be on the field.

If it could be provided by coaches, then there would zero need for any veterans on any team. 

Bersin has already proven to be a reliable receiver. All he does is catch everything thrown his way, and convert 3rd downs. Like Ricky Proehl did during his playing days. That's not good enough, the masses say. He better not make the team. Yes, cause we're so good we don't need good reliable receivers that'll grow with Can and the offense. 

We can't  the team keep both Cotchery and Bersin? Cause they aren't fast? Somebody better start calling every team in the league, and let them know they are wasting precious roster spots to talented, hard working possession receivers.

​I really think that people are trying to compensate for Bersins lack of skill by saying how 'reliable' he is. He made more than 1 mistake as a receiver that cost us last year and i have a hard time seeing why he should make the roster over guys like cothery, boykin and hill

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000420442/Week-9-Saints-vs-Panthers-highlights

1:15 in this video comes to mind.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Anybodyhome
      Weekes - Brind’Amour and Assistants Agree To Multi-Year Extension

      By Anybodyhome · Posted

      You said the team goes limp-dick in the playoffs because RBA won't change. (Note that you did not suggest what changes you think he needs to make). You then stated "Rod will never change anything." I can only infer that the team continues to fall out of the playoffs because RBA doesn't/won't change. Therefore, if RBA will never change anything, the team will fall out of the playoffs. I mean, that is literally the line of logic you posted. So, I'm not sure what you're suggesting, since I don't have a crystal ball. 
    • ASM
      ProDentim Reviews [Shocking Consumer Reports] ProDentim For Teeth Health Is It Worth Buying!

      By ASM · Posted

      ProDentim Reviews [Shocking Consumer Reports] ProDentim For Teeth Health Is It Worth Buying! 28 seconds ago, Sunday 19 May 2024 12:32:34 Welcome to this review of Prodentim Supplement! In this article, we will take a closer look at this dental health supplement and provide you with an informative and unbiased review. We will explore the ingredients, benefits, potential side effects, and customer feedback to help you make an informed decision about whether Prodentim is right for you.   𝐒𝐚𝐥𝐞 𝐈𝐬 𝐋𝐢𝐯𝐞  𝐒𝐡𝐨𝐩 𝐍𝐨𝐰 𝐎𝐟𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐖𝐞𝐛𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐞 Click here What is Prodentim Supplement? Prodentim Supplement is a dietary supplement specifically designed to support dental health. It is formulated with a blend of natural ingredients that are believed to promote oral hygiene and support overall gum and teeth health. Click here to buy Prodentim from Prodentim Official Website and Get 75% Discount What are the Ingredients in Prodentim? The Prodentim Supplement contains a unique combination of natural ingredients that work together to support dental health. Some of the key ingredients include: Vitamin  Known for its antioxidant properties, vitamin C is essential for collagen production and helps maintain healthy gums. Coenzyme Q10: This powerful antioxidant helps reduce inflammation and supports gum health. Zinc: Zinc plays a crucial role in maintaining healthy teeth and gums and is involved in wound healing. Cranberry Extract: Cranberry extract is believed to help prevent bacteria from sticking to the teeth, reducing the risk of plaque formation. Probiotics: Probiotics are beneficial bacteria that can help maintain a healthy balance of oral microflora, promoting oral health. What are the Prodentim Benefits?  Prodentim Supplement offers several potential benefits for dental health.Some of the key benefits of Prodentim include: Supports Gum Health: The blend of ingredients in Prodentim Supplement, such as coenzyme Q10 and vitamin C, may help support gum health and reduce inflammation. Maintains Healthy Teeth: The inclusion of zinc and cranberry extract in the formula may contribute to maintaining healthy teeth by preventing plaque formation. Promotes Oral Hygiene: The probiotics present in Prodentim Supplement may help maintain a healthy balance of oral microflora, which is essential for good oral hygiene. Prodentim Side Effects Prodentim Dental Supplement is generally considered safe for most individuals when taken as directed. However, it is always recommended to consult with a healthcare professional before starting any new dietary supplement, especially if you have any pre-existing medical conditions or are taking medication.  Prodentim Reviews Customer feedback on Prodentim Supplement has been largely positive. Prodentim has an average rating of 4.85/5. Many users have reported improvements in their gum health and overall oral hygiene after incorporating this supplement into their daily routine. However, individual results may vary, and it is important to keep in mind that dietary supplements may not work the same way for everyone.  Prodentim Conclusion In conclusion, Prodentim Supplement is a dental health supplement that aims to support gum health, maintain healthy teeth, and promote oral hygiene. With its blend of natural ingredients, including vitamin C, coenzyme Q10, zinc, cranberry extract, and probiotics, Prodentim Supplement offers potential benefits for those seeking to enhance their dental health. As with any dietary supplement, it is advisable to consult with a healthcare professional before starting it. Click here to buy Prodentim from Prodentim Official Website and Get 75% Discount Click here to learn more GRE@#@$@@(^**_)( #prodentim prodentim reviews . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . #prodentim                                           HGSY^%$&*NKLJL:   NSK*T*&^*(                  
    • OldhamA
      Dak Prescott

      By OldhamA · Posted

      That nickname was always bonkers - absolutely nothing about his game resembles Mahomes. 
×
×
  • Create New...