Will Cam be among the top five qbs in five years?

[Verge]

Will he have refined his skill set enough and become that elite status after the top dogs leave? Who do you think the top five qbs will be in 2020?

 

Here is my list, make sure to make your own.

 

1. Aaron Rodgers

2. Andrew Luck

3. Cam Newton

4. Ryan Tannehill

5. Teddy Bridgewater

[Cam's New Arm]

I mean. Tanny? Bridge? Are they any good or is that by default?

[pantherphan96]

I agree with your top 3, and I think Tannehill is underrated, but Bridgewater is incredibly overrated.

[t96]

I mean. Tanny? Bridge? Are they any good or is that by default?

I agree with your top 3, and I think Tannehill is underrated, but Bridgewater is incredibly overrated.

Tannehill is a solid game manager right now who has no deep ball whatsoever (and his career yards/attempt reflects that) and will likely end up more in the mold of an Alex Smith than a true elite QB. I don't think he'll ever be top 5, but he'll be a consistent top 15 guy with some up seasons and some down seasons who is capable of being a "franchise QB" but never an elite QB. As for Bridgewater, he has some size limitations, mid-intermediate range accuracy issues and arm strength questions. But other than that, he is all you could really ask for in a QB. He's the real deal and I absolutely see him being top 5 in 5 years. He can go through his reads better than any other young QB not named Andrew Luck or Cam Newton (this is completely non-homer) and his accuracy is solid for this stage in his career. Most importantly though, he's a very intelligent QB and makes good decisions. Not really a threat on the ground, and at this point he's not a big threat throwing deep (not as bad as Tannehill) but that could improve. I think Tannehill is generally pretty well respected around the league so I'd say he's properly rated, but Bridgewater is very underrated. If I had to guess right now based on how I see things turning out, here's what my top 5 in 5 years would be:

1. Aaron Rodgers (this is obvious if he's still playing then, which I expect to be the case)

2. Cam Newton (he has a lot of development that still needs to take place before he can be the 2nd best QB in the league, but I anticipate it happening, starting this year)

3. Andrew Luck (obviously already a fantastic young QB, but I don't see him having the ability to improve as much as Cam can over the next few years)

4. Jameis Winston (this may be premature since he hasn't played a down in the NFL, but if he has no off the field problems--far from a given--then I think he has the ability to develop into a poor man's Peyton Manning)

5. Teddy Bridgewater (I don't think he'll ever develop a great deep ball, but he excels at so much else that he can certainly be a top 5 QB, and even a poor man's Tom Brady if I had to compare him to another QB)

 

I don't see Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota, or other young QBs I'm probably forgetting being top 5. They'll fill out the rest of the "franchise QBs" along with probably some others drafted in the next few years, but I think that the top 5 I listed are the cream of the crop. But I don't see all of the top 5 being in the same tier, as elite QBs like Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Brees have been the past few years. I'd say Rodgers is in his own tier, above everyone else. Then Cam, Luck and Winston are the 2nd tier (either just below elite or "not as elite as Rodgers-elite..." however you want to put it). And Bridgewater is the top of the 3rd tier consisting of him, Wilson, Stafford and Ryan. Now if guys like Rivers, Romo or Roethlisberger are still playing then they'd probably be somewhere in the top 5, but I don't see them still playing then. Big Ben just signed a 5 year deal so I bet he hangs them up after that, Romo would be 40 and has had all kinds of injury issues, and Rivers would be old as well and his play has been streaky and declining anyways. If by some chance Brady, Brees or Peyton are still playing then they'd probably be up there too, but I don't see it happening.

[Jangler]

[CamMoon]

1. Aaron Rodgers 2.Can 3.Luck 4. Bridgewater 5. Derek Carr Tannehill is this generations version of Jake Delhomme, minus the wins and clutch. Miami will never win anything if they plan to build around him. Bridgewater can potentially be a great QB. My only concern with him is his size. He missed a game last year after twisting his ankle. The Vikings line was as bad as ours last year, so that may be an issue. I love Derek Carr. The guy is the kind of QB I love. A firey gun slinger. Reminds me of Favre. The Raiders aren't winning anything, but they're be fun. Stafford, Bradford, Ryan etc are all middle of the road guys. If RG3 can make it to week 4 he might creep into the discussion.

[The Huddler]

Wilson is not top 5 material

 

QBs lift up their team, not the other way around. 

[thefuzz]

Wilson is not top 5 material

 

QBs lift up their team, not the other way around. 

You can't prove that he can't.  They are winning football games in a certain way in Seattle, there is nothing to suggest that they couldn't win through the air if they needed to.  If all you need is a game manager to make it to two SB's back to back, that's probably the way you will use the QB.

 

That said:

Rodgers

Luck

Cam

Wilson

Jameis

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

lol, no

we're going into year 5 for cam. he is who he is at this point. he's not some big mystery anymore.

[nctarheel0619]

As long as Shula is here that's a resounding..................

 

 

[The Huddler]

You can't prove that he can't.  They are winning football games in a certain way in Seattle, there is nothing to suggest that they couldn't win through the air if they needed to.  If all you need is a game manager to make it to two SB's back to back, that's probably the way you will use the QB.

 

That said:

Rodgers

Luck

Cam

Wilson

Jameis

lol what? How about the fact that wilson is lost in the pocket and completes most of his passes outside of it? Did you even watch the NFCCG? Superbowl? That team beat the pack despite a Meltdown from russel, and had the pats beat too. Not only does his team elevates him, he held them back from another title. An average QB would be very successful on that team considering how great they are. 

 

You just give him the benifit of the doubt? Oh, he hasnt proven he couldnt, but has he proven he could? When has he ever carried that team to a win when they as a wjole struggle. 

[thefuzz]

lol what? How about the fact that wilson is lost in the pocket and completes most of his passes outside of it? Did you even watch the NFCCG? Superbowl? That team beat the pack despite a Meltdown from russel, and had the pats beat too. Not only does his team elevates him, he held them back from another title. An average QB would be very successful on that team considering how great they are. 

 

You just give him the benifit of the doubt? Oh, he hasnt proven he couldnt, but has he proven he could? When has he ever carried that team to a win when they as a wjole struggle. 

I'm expecting growth from him, that's what this is asking....in 5 years, who are the top 5 QB's.  I fully expect him to be there, you are saying that he can't get there.  I'm just saying that as he grows and learns, that he will get better.

 

He isn't top 5 now, but neither is Cam.

[pantherking15]

lol, no

we're going into year 5 for cam. he is who he is at this point. he's not some big mystery anymore.

In 5 years, the following QBs will probably retire: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Ben R., Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith. That leaves Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck as locks for the top 5. Cam is competing against Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford, and any new upcoming QB for the top 5 ranking. It's not that far-fetched of a thought.

Also, "he is who he is" isn't accurate at all. You're forgetting that Cam only had 1 year of major CFB experience, that too in a read option run heavy offense. So, Cam's development phase (normally 3-4 years) was always going to be longer than those QBs with 4 years of CFB experience like Luck, Wilson, Ryan, etc. Cam's development was also delayed with ankle surgery and Gettleman's re-build in 2014.  From reports out of OTAs so far, Rivera says this is the sharpest and most precise Cam has ever looked in the off-season. If Cam makes a significant improvement with footwork, mechanics, and consistency in year 5, he has a solid chance of being a top 5 QB in 5 years.

Even if you see Wilson and Ryan in the top 5, all Cam would need to do is at least equal Flacco and Stafford in passing skills/consistency (he's not that far behind) and his mobility/athleticism/rushing ability would rank him over Flacco and Stafford into the top 5. We're talking about top 5 QBs not top 5 pure pocket passers. You have to factor in Cam's elite rushing talent.

 

[The Huddler]

I'm expecting growth from him, that's what this is asking....in 5 years, who are the top 5 QB's.  I fully expect him to be there, you are saying that he can't get there.  I'm just saying that as he grows and learns, that he will get better.

 

He isn't top 5 now, but neither is Cam.

in 5 years i fully expect him to be on a team that no longer carries him and makes him out to be better than he is. He will be asked to do what a top 5 QB does, i i dont think he can. He will either be delt to a needy team for picks, or retained and lose the team that has elevated hom to what he is. 

 

If you think he can pull it off, then so be it. I say no  you contain him, you make him come back down a possesion or two, he hasnt gotten it done. Ive never seen a team down a couple score and comeback by running the ball as they did against the pack  an average QB that doesnt commit horrible mistakes is all that team needed to win the superbowl