Goodell & the owners v. Fans

[the butch]

With the Brady ruling, Goodell's image obviously took a hit.  The media sentiment has been that the owners love Goodell because the league is making money.  At the very same time, the media says that the NFL is sui generis, and makes it's own money regardless.  If that's the case, getting rid of Goodell would be irrelevant seeing as how the consensus is that people will always watch.  Further, if Goodell is out, it seems that the brand would grow even more considering the general public hates him.  IMO, it seems that the only thing saving Goodell's job is his effort to expand the NFL abroad.  That's money, and the owners listen to that.  What's the Huddle's opinion?

[Cam's New Arm]

Well written and equally thought out. I'm not sure what the targeted debate is though?

[the butch]

Well written and equally thought out. I'm not sure what the targeted debate is though?

The thread, more or less I guess, is meant to be a Panthers forum fan discussion on Goodell's teetering [as I see it] position as head man of the NFL.  Free commentary is encouraged.

[2jakefansinva]

RG is judge, jury and executioner........as it should be.

union signed on to it...... Courts should not be involved.

[CRA]

With the Brady ruling, Goodell's image obviously took a hit.  The media sentiment has been that the owners love Goodell because the league is making money.  At the very same time, the media says that the NFL is sui generis, and makes it's own money regardless.  If that's the case, getting rid of Goodell would be irrelevant seeing as how the consensus is that people will always watch.  Further, if Goodell is out, it seems that the brand would grow even more considering the general public hates him.  IMO, it seems that the only thing saving Goodell's job is his effort to expand the NFL abroad.  That's money, and the owners listen to that.  What's the Huddle's opinion?

general public hating Goodell doesn't prevent them from making money...

he he is a face to hate....but basically instead of directing the hate at Richardson, Jones, etc.  Goodell gets most of it.  Owners like that.  

He is growing the game and the NFL is more profitable than ever.  He also despite the court rulings last from an owners perspective has done a great job against vs the union.

i think the owners are very pleased overall.  

[pantherclaw]

I don't feel that any court of law should be allowed to tell a business how it handles it's employees when the employee breaks policy. 

[fitty76]

Everyone acts like Goodell is good at his job.  You have to try really hard NOT to make money with the TV ratings the NFL gets.  Is he really good at his job?  Or is he just riding the wave of the NFL's popularity?  

[the butch]

I don't feel that any court of law should be allowed to tell a business how it handles it's employees when the employee breaks policy. 

This idea got quashed in 1945.  

[DeeJay]

He sucks ass 

HES HORRIBLE

HES DREADFUL

HES GARBAGE

HES TRASH CAN NACHOS

FIRE HIM

[the butch]

RG is judge, jury and executioner........as it should be.

union signed on to it...... Courts should not be involved.

The thing with the courts, they can step in when the CBA--ANY CBA not just the NFL and the NFLPA's--is violated.  An arbitration award is nothing more than a contract.  That contract has no legal effect until the legal system gives confirmation.  The only reason arbitration exists is because the legal system needs to divert flow.  This CBA and the resulting negotiations wouldn't even exist if it were not for the court system allowing it.  So, to say the courts should not be involved is missing the point that the courts were involved in the first instance and have tried ever since to not be.

[PandaPancake]

He's the Vince McMahon for the NFL

[rodeo]

Real football fans knew Brady did nothing wrong from the start. The only people upset about what we knew should happen are hillbillies.

[Pimpdaddy]

Brady just got bigger than the league Goduche...

[Davidson Deac II]

Whether Brady did anything wrong or not is irrelevant and still unknown.  The judge ruled that the NFL didn't follow proper procedures for the suspension.