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Philly Brown and Ted Ginn Jr are the worst starting receiver tandem in the league...


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I think this is undisputed. How many teams can you think of that made significant playoff runs while having the worst receivers in football? Not just bad, but 32nd out of 32?

 

I'm not hating on either of them, neither should have been cut. But we're starting the equivalent of 4th and 5th receivers from other team's squads as our 1 and 2 and it's just Week 1. Just how bad can this thing get if Ginn goes out there and breaks an ankle in the 3rd quarter?

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Raiders aren't that much better off either. Michael Crabtree, who had a good year in 2012, but has otherwise been nothing to tell mom about in his career. Then Amari Cooper, who was great in college, but unproven as of yet as he is just a rookie. Things aren't looking great for Oakland either, folks.


We're not in a great spot, but let's not act like we're doomed.

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you would take brown/ginn over two proven 1000-yard receivers?



Yep. I think Brown/Ginn CAN put up those kind of numbers. They've just been relegated to #3,4,5 spots on the depth chart, so they haven't put up the numbers. Harry Douglas only had his 1,000 yard season when he was finally put in a starting spot. Keep that in mind... 

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I feel like calling anything "Undisputed" before the first snap of the first regular season game is just reaching for shock value.  "oh hell he said it was undisputed I better get my sky-holding gloves on".  

Of course it's not undisputed before there is a single metric...and even then calling a single position or position group "best" or "worst" in a game where every position on the field impacts every other position is highly debatable.

For that matter when did teams start using only two receivers?  

I swear...people will bitch about anything.

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