ESPN First Take: Cam can't lose a game if he wants to win MVP

[Ivan The Awesome]

So Brady and Palmer can lose but not Cam?  The fug is that?! 

[FootballMaestro]

8 minutes ago, joeyxfresco said:

This. I hated Russel Wilson before this season because I always thought he was a system QB and would get exposed on a weak team and boy is he proving me wrong. I'm really looking forward to the clashes Cam and Wilson will have throughout their careers. Cam vs Wilson will be the new Brady vs Manning 

It's still mostly quick throw/one read throws (from the pocket lately), and sand lot QBing (to start the season and yesterday's game).

So let's see what happens when he plays good teams, and they adjust?

Let's just say, he doesn't look nearly as composed and calm, scanning the field like Cam does.

[Cary Kollins]

It's sad, but that statement probably has some truth to it.

For reasons we've been over a hundred times, there is a segment of journalists/fans that will never like Cam and look to slight him any chance they can.

 

If the Panthers go 16-0, there is no possible way to argue against Cam as the MVP. If they lose one or two, as poor as the argument would be, there would be folks giving the MVP to Brady or Palmer.

 

Funny thing is, Brady and Palmer would probably come close to splitting votes. The NFL isn't like the NBA voting, meaning the players are not ranked as most deserving. You either receive the vote or not, so unless the voters colluded to only vote for either Brady/Palmer, Cam would still probably win based on the level-headed voters.

 

[Bozarden]

2 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

It's sad, but that statement probably has some truth to it.

For reasons we've been over a hundred times, there is a segment of journalists/fans that will never like Cam and look to slight him any chance they can.

 

If the Panthers go 16-0, there is no possible way to argue against Cam as the MVP. If they lose one or two, as poor as the argument would be, there would be folks giving the MVP to Brady or Palmer.

 

Funny thing is, Brady and Palmer would probably come close to splitting votes. The NFL isn't like the NBA voting, meaning they players are not ranked as most deserving. You either receive the vote or not, so unless the voters colluded to only vote for either Brady/Palmer, Cam would still probably win based on the level-headed voters.

 

Why is palmer even in the conversation? He has 7 fewer total td's than Cam with maybe the best weapons on offense in the league and 2 more losses with arguably a better defense than ours.

[Peppers90 NC]

first take your goofenthall, then speak nonsensically 

[FootballMaestro]

This is nonsense.

First of all; they started from the premise that Carolina had already clinched the entire NFC, which they hadn't.

So if the Panthers beat Atlanta, and lose to Tampa Bay-already securing Home field throughout by beating Atlanta-he would win for sure (if he hasn't already)!

[Growl]

Stephen A said this and while it was dumb he did say he thinks he should be the win it. 

 

It was Bayless that was actually rambling nonsensically, saying that Cam had only maybe just now caught up to Brady and that one of the reasons Tom Brady should win it is because he started 7/7 against the Titans (you know the same team Cam started 11/11 against)

[PhillyB]

cam cemented it yesterday. running for 100 yards in place of his starting running back and throwing for 300+ and 5TDs. that is absolutely bonkers.

[FootballMaestro]

8 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

cam cemented it yesterday. running for 100 yards in place of his starting running back and throwing for 300+ and 5TDs. that is absolutely bonkers.

Yup Yup

Clowns like Dilfer (who no doubt never watched), now say 'he's learn to throw in the pocket, but wow, he can still run like that/yesterday'!

Duh. Just like yesterday; in the past; Cam had an inconsistent run game. So he had to run more to compensate. That's what these clowns didn't realize.

And he could always throw from the pocket. He was never a sandlot QB like the rest of the "running" QB's, largely/probably because of his enormous size.

[beastson]

He deserves the award

But doing some research, last time a QB won the MVP and won in the SB, was 1999 Kurt Warner. Not Manning, Brady, Ben whoever else has done that since. They can have the award if it means Cam wins the SB

[Chaos]

Do Stephen A and Skip cast a vote for MVP?

[mc52beast]

I seriously don't think it's a "race" thing, white people are talking about Wilson being the MVP.

Dont really understand why he can't lose a game, everyone else has lost multiple games, and none of them( maybe with the exception of Wilson) accounts for a bigger % of their teams offense.

[h0llywood]

Tom Brady in a pass happy offense has 5 career 5TD+ games.

Cam has 3 this year on a power run based offense. 

[Ruff]

Do people actually watch first take?