Offense and Momentum

[Davis83]

Forgive if already mentioned, but this crap where we start huddling and losing momentum sucks.  1st half, we pretty much ran a no huddle offense and moved the ball at will.  2nd half we're in the huddle every play and having to take TO's cause the play is late.  I know they are trying to eat the clock, but you can accomplish that in the no huddle too.  My god man, when the other team starts scoring, you have to let Cam do his thing and score some points too.  31 in a half - zip in the 2nd...sometimes we look like we are playing Fox ball again.

[KSpan]

Can't pie this enough, and I've said in a couple of places that the offense, or offensive coaching as ths case may be, carries much of the blame. Just...keep... scoring.

[Mr. Scot]

I get the complaint, but the way things were going in the second half I can't feel too good about any strategy that potentially leaves more time on the clock.

[KSpan]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get the complaint, but the way things were going in the second half I can't feel too good about any strategy that potentially leaves more time on the clock.

Who says there would be more time though? More first downs and longer drives take time as well, and it would be irrelevant with more points on the board.

[LinvilleGorge]

This team is sensitive to aggression on both sides of the ball.  They know when the coaches take their foot off the gas.  I don't know why we keep doing it.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Who says there would be more time though? More first downs and longer drives take time as well, and it would be irrelevant with more points on the board.

And what if you don't?  Then what happens to your defense?

Heck, even if you do, your defense doesn't get much rest at a time when it looked like they needed it badly.  On the flipside, a slow sustained drive not only rests your defense, but wears on theirs.

It's basically the Chip Kelly approach, but remember Kelly wore his own defense out as much as he did the other team's.

Again, I understand the idea.  I just can't get behind it.

[Squirrel]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get the complaint, but the way things were going in the second half I can't feel too good about any strategy that potentially leaves more time on the clock.

Agree we needed to eat the clock up. Worse things the Panthers could have done is risk turning the ball over.  

[CPantherKing]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get the complaint, but the way things were going in the second half I can't feel too good about any strategy that potentially leaves more time on the clock.

The Panthers run more time off the clock when they allow Cam to go no huddle and make adjustments at the line. Look at the drives. I would expect the coaches to know that. Not to mention Cam is more effective out of the no huddle.

[TuckerMax25]

If you're saying we can't continue to play real football you're essentially saying you don't trust Cam to get it done. He is the easy mvp and playing great. I'd rather it in his hands than the opposing offense racing against the clock.

[Moorgan]

Look I get being upset about the second half but that was a fugging awesome game! We crushed them and got something to be mad at. The cards are gonna get beat...badly.

[GoobyPls]

The announcer pointed out how when you slow play it disrupts the flow of the offense, and it was completely true in our case. How many timeouts did Cam have to waste not to get a delay of game? 

 

The second half was so frustrating, we were running on 1st and 2nd and hoping Cam can save us on third and long. Not only the offense but the defense went to a complete soft coverage. McClain and Finnegan were getting abused 

[Zaximus]

There is no excuse to slow the reins on your offense when it just dropped 31 in the first half.  NONE.   This defense has holes, when one is exploited you need points on the board to take the brunt of the damage.   We have the MVP on our team and we handcuffed him for half the game.  

[t96]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

And what if you don't?  Then what happens to your defense?

Heck, even if you do, your defense doesn't get much rest at a time when it looked like they needed it badly.  On the flipside, a slow sustained drive not only rests your defense, but wears on theirs.

It's basically the Chip Kelly approach, but remember Kelly wore his own defense out as much as he did the other team's.

Again, I understand the idea.  I just can't get behind it.

Not necessarily. The Chip Kelly approach is to run the play as fast as possible. We could run the no huddle and have Cam sit there at the line reading the D and then not snapping it until the play clock is low and time is still running off. No huddle doesn't mean faster plays. Getting to the LoS faster is what's important in my opinion. I'm honestly not too upset about the second half. Of course we need to make adjustments and the defense sucked but as far as coaching goes I think they did well. We controlled the ball for 16 minutes in the 2nd half despite not scoring and only allowed Seattle to have 5 drives.

[KSpan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

And what if you don't?  Then what happens to your defense?

Heck, even if you do, your defense doesn't get much rest at a time when it looked like they needed it badly.  On the flipside, a slow sustained drive not only rests your defense, but wears on theirs.

It's basically the Chip Kelly approach, but remember Kelly wore his own defense out as much as he did the other team's.

Again, I understand the idea.  I just can't get behind it.

They couldn't stop it in the first half, when Carolina had a huge advantage in TOP, so why decide to stop yourself in the second? I'm not saying go full Chip Kelly, but there's no reason to go into a shell in the third and completely disregard an offensive plan that already scored 24 points. My issue is that they only generated one 'slow, sustained drive' that ate any significant time, and a faster pace on an earlier drive may have taken MORE time by going farther and even gotten points. 

Like I said before, if they even get 3 points (or ideally 7 -14) in the third then this conversation isn't happening. Either way though, I'm very happy the team won. Don't want to lose sight of that.