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Let's talk about Ted Ginn Jr.


PhillyB

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Gettleman has shown repeatedly throughout his tenure with us that he's more than willing to jettison players who aren't doing their jobs. Gettleman doesn't care much for things like feelings and sentimentality, or if he does he doesn't let it get in the way of running a football operation. Anytime a player's underperformed in some way that cripples the team, and that player is easily replaceable, Gettleman has been willing to let him go.

What does this say about Ted Ginn?

In a lot of ways I think Ginn is a fan favorite. He was actually one of my favorite players last year, because despite his drops he was a big play kind of guy and gave us that over-the-top threat we'd been missing from the year before. For every overtime drop against the Colts you had a clutch 60-yard touchdown on a third down crossing pattern, and it was the clutch 60 yard touchdown I think most of us remembered.

But I can't help but think Gettleman also sees the drops. They cost us in the big game. Even if we tag Norman, Gettleman will have enough cap space to do some damage in free agency. If he views wide receiver as a position that needs to be upgraded (it's actually possible Kelvin Benjamin doesn't return to his rookie form) and goes after someone like Alshon Jeffrey, then suddenly a guy like Ginn becomes expendable.

Should Ginn be worried?

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It wouldn't blow my mind if Ginn ends up getting cut in training camp because we have a lot of good receivers. It's pretty unlikely though, even if he doesn't play a lot of receiver he's really the only punt returner we have (McClain stepped in pretty decently, but who knows if he'll be back). I like Ginn a lot, but after seeing what Corey Brown did in the super bowl, I think we need to roll with him and allow him to develop a little bit more, he looked very good, and we know exactly what have in Ginn at this point.

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Just now, Kuhndog94 said:

Ginn was brought in as a solution to our problem with fielding punts. He was never expected to be the main guy catching passes. I absolutely think he stays

this is my initial thought as well. but doesn't jeffrey field punts? if gettleman feels he can replace deep drops with deep catches and not lose out on a return man, will he pull the trigger?

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I think he knew what we were getting with Ginn when we signed him, both times.  He knew the risk/reward, and felt like the reward was worth it, which it was for the most part.  If Ginn had hands, he wouldn't have been here in the first place.  He'd have a nice fat wallet in Miami still.  So, I don't think he has to be too worried.  Not unless we get a guy that's as fast as him, and is more consistent catching the ball.  We still need his speed in our WR group.  He's actually turned into a really good route runner this season as well.  

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His speed changes our offense even if it is just his presence on the field. We have no one else that can do what he does. Philly is quick and all and I'm sure he would tell you otherwise, but he isn't even in the same universe as Ginn as a deep threat. Unless we find a way to sign Travis Benjamin or draft someone like Corey Coleman then Ginn will be back and we need him back.

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5 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

this is my initial thought as well. but doesn't jeffrey field punts? if gettleman feels he can replace deep drops with deep catches and not lose out on a return man, will he pull the trigger?

Jeffery doesn't field punts, he has had one kick return in his college and pro career.  So he wouldn't work in this scenario.

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