I Don't Get The Celebration Here...

[top dawg]

Good grief. Just think what a pickle we'd be in hadn't CJ signed his deal. I wonder if this had anything to do with  how quick Getty was to release Norman (meaning that he may still be here if CJ wasn't). 

[Proudiddy]

18 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Honestly @Proudiddy I think you become too emotionally invested in individual players. You lean toward the side of getting upset when you say things like "publicly humiliated" and stuff like that. 

You and I have gone laps over differing of opinions on the running of this time, so I hope you don't take this personally.

Its simply an observation after having known you for some time now. 

I don't disagree, but i also think those that tend to be indifferent or lean towards the "godfather knows best" tropes find my words to be hyperbolic and inflammatory when in fact they are rooted in facts.

I'm working towards not taking myself so damn serious anymore and getting back to being my old nonchalant, asshole self.  But, i still occasionally do get in my feels.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go sign Josh to a lifetime contract at 30 mil per on Madden.

[Montsta]

I don't get the argument that it's ok for a player to be stubborn in their stance because they only have one shot at a big payday to feed their family, while completely ignoring that Gettleman had been trying to be a GM for decades and finally got his shot when many thought he was too old and now this job is his only chance to feed his family as well. If he sucks at it and gets fired he will never get another shot and he goes back to being VP of pro personnel. 

poo goes both ways. 

[Snake]

1 hour ago, morgan55 said:

Well as much as I agree that he leaves us with a big hole, he also kinda forced this on himself... Sign the damn tag.... Get paid..... And shut up and play football... But u see how that worked out... 

Not to mention we stood by him and paid him while he was taking a long time to learn.  Norman just like Hardy and Smith seemed ok tearing the team apart to get what he wanted. Dude was going to get paid nice this year by us as well. 

[Huffgolf30]

I think long term this is prob the best move, but it still hurts like hell to watch him go. I really wanted another SB run next year and I think this puts a major dent in that. Long term, however, you can't keep everyone.  Benji/Star/Short IMO would be a higher priority...All will be up for big time contracts very soon.... Hell you could argue coleman could rank up there as well with the season he had. It's ashame to me we just couldn't franchise him for 1 more year. I think there's more going on behind the scenes than we know. Perhaps a holdout looming from his camp.

[TheRed]

7 minutes ago, Montsta said:

I don't get the argument that it's ok for a player to be stubborn in their stance because they only have one shot at a big payday to feed their family, while completely ignoring that Gettleman had been trying to be a GM for decades and finally got his shot when many thought he was too old and now this job is his only chance to feed his family as well. If he sucks at it and gets fired he will never get another shot and he goes back to being VP of pro personnel. 

poo goes both ways. 

Gettleman isn't risking his health now or in the future out there in his nippleshorts on the field for 20 or more games a year.

It's a cutthroat business all around unfortunately.

[Proudiddy]

17 minutes ago, Montsta said:

I don't get the argument that it's ok for a player to be stubborn in their stance because they only have one shot at a big payday to feed their family, while completely ignoring that Gettleman had been trying to be a GM for decades and finally got his shot when many thought he was too old and now this job is his only chance to feed his family as well. If he sucks at it and gets fired he will never get another shot and he goes back to being VP of pro personnel. 

poo goes both ways. 

I guess it depends on your personal outlook of the system.  To a degree you're right...  for any given job in the league, there are only 32 of them in the world.  So, it takes a lifetime of work to get one.  Imo, the difference is, executives usually are part of a brotherhood that looks out for one another in a professional sense.  Players are always at the mercy of the executives so there job security is much more tenuous.  If players lose their job, they only have a limited number of years and teams to gain another opportunity.  And as The Red pointed out, the players are essentially risking life and limb every day while executives sit in their offices.  So, the urgency for a player to obtain  financial security is far greater. If a GM loses his job, odds are much more likely that they can gain equal or similar employment elsewhere until they decide they've had enough.  So although GMan could have went a lifetime without getting an opportunity as a GM, he still would've made great money working in a similar capacity for as long as he wanted.  Players don't have that same luxury.

I also wanted to say, if it wasn't evident already, I don't consider myself to be for one side and against the other in any absolute sense.  GMan has earned my respect and made me eat crow too many times to count over the last two years.  This situation just doesn't sit well with me and reminds me of another where it appeared a player was publicly disrespected, so it brought out the riot in me.

That being said, ultimately, what does it matter what any of us say, feel, or do about it?  It's going to go down hiw it's going to go down.  I just hope we come  out on the right side of it.

[GoobyPls]

I'm more than 100% positive that if we trade Cam tomorrow people on this board would say the following, Gettleman knows what he's doing, don't question Gettleman, Cam was overrated, Gettleman was thinking about the future.

 

I swear people are putting the GM ahead of the entire franchise as if he's the sole purpose for our success when in reality Hurney players are the ones CARRYING this team.

 

Norman has been nothing but great for us and they have been paying him peanuts. If wants a larger contract so be it I hope he gets with us or someone else. Last season when our pass rush was a joke and Luke was injured Norman put this defense on his back. And you have to be out of your mind if you think losing Norman won't hurt. Little do  people forget in 2014 when we had Florence and whats his name starting The D got torched mercifully

[TheRumGone]

We got worse today. There is absolutely no getting around that. You can talk back and forth about whatever but we just lost an elite player. It's as if people forget what Norman did to teams #1s last year and he was hitting his stride. That said this hyperbolic thread about "pride" and other bullshit comes across as a 12 year old child's post. 

DG did what he thought was best for the team long term today. I do believe Josh and his agent made him feel uneasy about chemistry and lockerroom stuff playing under the tag. There is no way gettleman pulls this tag without thinking of the short term ramifications and balancing that with the long term.

Sad day today for panther fans. We just lost one of our great homegrown underdog players. Just makes me sad. It's not disastrous but we took a hit today. Looking forward to the draft and the rest of our signings to see what we come up with. No way Norman comes back to play for us.

[TheRumGone]

7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

I'm more than 100% positive that if we trade Cam tomorrow people on this board would say the following, Gettleman knows what he's doing, don't question Gettleman, Cam was overrated, Gettleman was thinking about the future.

 

I swear people are putting the GM ahead of the entire franchise as if he's the sole purpose for our success when in reality Hurney players are the ones CARRYING this team.

 

Norman has been nothing but great for us and they have been paying him peanuts. If wants a larger contract so be it I hope he gets with us or someone else. Last season when our pass rush was a joke and Luke was injured Norman put this defense on his back. And you have to be out of your mind if you think losing Norman won't hurt. Little do  people forget in 2014 when we had Florence and whats his name starting The D got torched mercifully

No. Not one person would say that. Cam is the panthers. 

[Montsta]

8 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

I'm more than 100% positive that if we trade Cam tomorrow people on this board would say the following, Gettleman knows what he's doing, don't question Gettleman, Cam was overrated, Gettleman was thinking about the future.

 

I swear people are putting the GM ahead of the entire franchise as if he's the sole purpose for our success when in reality Hurney players are the ones CARRYING this team.

 

Norman has been nothing but great for us and they have been paying him peanuts. If wants a larger contract so be it I hope he gets with us or someone else. Last season when our pass rush was a joke and Luke was injured Norman put this defense on his back. And you have to be out of your mind if you think losing Norman won't hurt. Little do  people forget in 2014 when we had Florence and whats his name starting The D got torched mercifully

This is absolutely absurd. Rescinding the tag on a player that almost everyone considered a one year rental because your long term negotiations have reached an impasse is nothing like trading your franchise QB after having an MVP season. 

If you genuinely believe these two things are even marginally similar then there is no hope for you. 

[The Huddler]

54 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

To be fair. The folks saying crap about Josh are the ones you usually ignore anyway. Most level headed folk are just confused as to how this got so far out of control. Josh wasn't going to give in. Gman wasn't going to give in. This was pretty much inevitable. But really, most thought we were going to get one more year out of Josh. So it is a shock. And most people don't react well to shock.

id pie you but i hit my 100 pie giving cap

 

wtf. there should be more pie giving abilities during high controversy shock days

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, The Huddler said:

id poe you but i hit my 100 pie giving cap

 

wtf. there should be more pie giving abilities during high controversy shock days

 

You don't need to poe me. I ain't in it for the poe. But if it makes you feel better. You can poe me later. K?

 

And I don't get the limit either. I mean is there only so much pie to go around? Is it a real tangible thing? Do they only make so much pie a day that they need to ration it? Man this interwebz thingy really does confuse me sometimes.

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I think a lot of it has to do with the Dave Gettlemen fans that think at this point everything he does will be a home run.....law of averages eventually have to come into play with Dave.   

Dave has done a great job.  But like any GM he will have some blunders.  As close as we were to a Super Bowl I think Norman was worth the headache being tagged and giving it one more shot.   Losing him is a step back.  He was big in our season last year and getting us to where we got.  I think he is overrated myself.....but that doesn't mean we should of let him walk based on how we are built presently 

Agreed ,WE      Are  Still Behind from where Gamble left...we made strides but are still behind.