Who Can Do it Better...?

[SetfreexX]

For the sake of the conversation let’s just assume the following is our ''Week One offense'' , the question is who in the NFL is better…?

 

QB-

Cam Newton

 

HB-

Jonathan Stewart

Fozzy Whittaker/Cameron Artis-Payne

 

FB-

Mike Tolbert

 

WR-

Kelvin Benjamin

Devin Funchess

Ted Ginn Jr

Philly Brown

Stephen Hill

 

TE-

Greg Olsen

Ed Dickson/Beau Sandland

 

In all seriousness gentleman I’m curious across the NFL who boasts a better set of QB and skill position players on offense across ALL the position groups?

[caatfan]

If only gentlemen can vote that really restricts the participation around here, not to mention shutting out the ladies. lol

We had all these guys as starters in the SB and came up short so I'm not that enthusiastic about claiming we've got the best players at the skill positions. It's a team game and you've gotta have all the parts meshing. 

[weyco2000]

18 minutes ago, caatfan said:

If only gentlemen can vote that really restricts the participation around here, not to mention shutting out the ladies. lol

We had all these guys as starters in the SB and came up short so I'm not that enthusiastic about claiming we've got the best players at the skill positions. It's a team game and you've gotta have all the parts meshing. 

No, not all these guys played in the SB.

[LinvilleGorge]

Well, considering the fact that we had the #1 offense in the NFL last year and we essentially have the exact same squad coming back plus getting a healthy KB back and having Darryl Williams competing at OT to possibly improve our two weakest position groups... I'd argue no one is better.

[stratopanther]

The only offense I can think of that might give us a run is the Steelers.  Ben, Leveon, Brown, and now green at TE is a very well rounded group. If Martavis wasnt suspended id probably give them the edge. Of course we have a better coach, defense, and QB which is why we went 15-1 and they went whatever they went.

[LinvilleGorge]

Eh... I'd be cautious definitively stating that Rivera is better than Tomlin. Tomlin has coached 9 seasons and has won a Super Bowl, been to another, and been to the playoffs 6 times.  He's never had a losing season as a head coach (two .500 seasons).  He's 92-52 as a head coach for a 64% win rate.  That's a really damn solid resume.

I personally think that Rivera is the better coach right now and that's what matters most, but I could understand someone arguing otherwise and if they both retired today, Tomlin would go down as the better coach.

[imminent rogaine]

I'd say the Panthers are at the top.  A few other teams are in that convo but maybe aren't quite as well rounded.

Steelers are in that convo, certainly. I'd say Arizona and Greenbay are as well. And... surprisingly if Bortles continues to progress, Jacksonville might not be too far away.

[EightyNine]

I think that last year (and a lot of history) was a good lesson that having good skill position players does not translate into more wins or a great offense.

Think about all of the teams in recent history that get over hyped because everyone likes to look at their flashy skill positions (Colts, Falcons, Lions, Cowboys, etc)  and vice versa (Seahawks, Patriots, Chiefs, 49ers, Ravens, etc).  How come all the great skill position players the Jags had last year couldnt get them over the hump? Its still mostly about tackling and blocking and being physical.

Sorry if thats not what this conversation is about, but i wanted to point that out.

 

[stratopanther]

1 minute ago, imminent rogaine said:

I'd say the Panthers are at the top.  A few other teams are in that convo but maybe aren't quite as well rounded.

Steelers are in that convo, certainly. I'd say Arizona and Greenbay are as well. And... surprisingly if Bortles continues to progress, Jacksonville might not be too far away.

Was in the process of mentioning the jags. Bortles, Ivory/Yeldon, J Thomas, and Arob/Hurndog is an impressive group.

[Jangler]

 

[CoastalCat]

20 minutes ago, EightyNine said:

I think that last year (and a lot of history) was a good lesson that having good skill position players does not translate into more wins or a great offense.

Think about all of the teams in recent history that get over hyped because everyone likes to look at their flashy skill positions (Colts, Falcons, Lions, Cowboys, etc)  and vice versa (Seahawks, Patriots, Chiefs, 49ers, Ravens, etc).  How come all the great skill position players the Jags had last year couldnt get them over the hump? Its still mostly about tackling and blocking and being physical.

Sorry if thats not what this conversation is about, but i wanted to point that out.

 

This. Our receivers aren't great. We have a 1 (IF he comes back as good as 2013), and a ton of 3's. Not really a problem. Seattle and New England have been doing just fine with similar talent, while Calvins team keeps missing the playoffs. 

Main two things I attribute to our #1 offense...

1: 30.53 - Offense average starting field position (Ranked 2nd)

2: .196 - Defense turnovers per drive (Ranked 1st)

[d-dave]

CoastalCat is very right. It offense played well last year, but it was helped by one of the best defences in the NFL.

Personally, I'm ready to see what we do this season.

[The Huddler]

I love how even our own fan base is greatly under estimating Brandon Wegher!

 

unedited, as of early June of 2016, I think we have a loaded backfield when others think its a weakness

 

i really think Wegher will be the stud of the future and CAP will be a good change of pace

[Jimmy]