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cbarrier90 Newbie

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On 6/20/2016 at 1:23 AM, Wundrbread33 said:

I'm all for taking a risk on Maker, but you know we aren't picking him.

Even if we did, we would give up on him and trade him instead of developing what he can bring to the table.

Who knows if we actually wanted to develop Noah, but simply saw an opportunity that presented itself after Aldridge didn't re-sign with Portland.

Also, having our own D-League team down the road will probably be a lot different than sending guys to random flyover states thousands of miles away.

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5 hours ago, carolina-chuck2 said:

People are comparing their greatness. No one is dumb enough to say theyre the same type of player.

You overestimate the intelligence of the majority of humanity.

Back to the point though. I made a comparison, you didn't like it, but who gives a poo.

Every "comparison" is useless anyway because no player is exactly like another. Most comparisons are actually made because two guys LOOK similar. I see Valentine most compared to Danny Green...but why? Skin tone, height, average athleticism. 

Valentine is a much more versatile (and flashy) offensive player than Green. Much better passer. Better rebounder. I'd say Green is the better defender. But when you look at what Valentine brings to the table, Roy makes more sense than Green, who, once again, Valentine is often compared to because of skin tone and likeness in appearance.

All this is much ado about nothing, since draft time is always a let down with Cho and co. anyway...

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4 hours ago, carolina-chuck2 said:

I said Draymond not Danny. But Wing Draymond, not a PF Draymond.

 

Roy was a PG. Much more athleticism and a better shooter

Roy could play 1-3. Better athlete but he was "above average" at best athletically. He was all about BBIQ...intangibles. He was crafty.

Valentine can also play 1-3 because he is an elite passer for a wing. He can stroke it from range. He rebounds well for his size. His game is also BBIQ and craftiness.

They both have knee issues.

I've seen worse comparisons.

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