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Where did this guy go?

Mr. Scot

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A couple of specific coaching things...

Rivera seems to have come to the belief that we can just do what we do without adapting to who were playing. The Broncos observation that the Panthers "didn't change anything" in last year's Super Bowl is an indictment of that notion.

That might be true in college, but not in the pros. You have to adapt. If you don't, teams that do will get your number quick.

Secondly, as someone else mentioned, it was expected that the team was going to be disciplined. That's never really been through, even last year.

And last, the read-option should have been dumped a long time ago.

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16 minutes ago, Chaos said:

There is a fine line from wanting to be everyone's friend that you manage, and being a boss first.  I think his pendulum has shifted all the way into the friend zone.

That's the impression I get too.  I'm not ready to give up on RR, but something needs to change drastically.

 

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4 minutes ago, Snake said:

I'm starting to wonder if this organization just doesn't do that to coaches. Or maybe he was just that way to begin with. I think JR should not settle for less and he does sometimes. 

I think it's more just a case that Ron is not a guy who's well suited to being in charge of everything.

He used to talk a lot about Norv Turner, and I couldn't help but feel that he was more comfortable being in that subordinate role as a coordinator than being the guy out front.

If you've watched football for any length of time, you should know that there are some guys who make better coordinators than head coaches.

Sad to say Rivera might be one of those guys.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think it's more just a case that Ron is not a guy who's well suited to being in charge of everything.

He used to talk a lot about Norv Turner, and I couldn't help but feel that he was more comfortable being in that subordinate role as a coordinator than being the guy out front.

If you've watched football for any length of time, you should know that there are some guys who make better coordinators than head coaches.

Sad to say Rivera might be one of those guys.

I think it's the difference between a good HC and a great one. I think a great HC has to have a ego and brilliance to back it up. Ron really doesn't have either and it's why both offense and defense struggle when things go south. 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

See, I don't buy that. I think this is who he really was at the time.

But after slow starts the first few seasons, I wasn't seeing that same guy. He looked like he'd been defanged.

Somewhere along the way I just think he went too far in the direction of being a "players coach".

Perhaps that's who he wanted to be and intended to be, but the evidence doesn't suggest that's who he was. 

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3 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Perhaps that's who he wanted to be and intended to be, but the evidence doesn't suggest that's who he was. 

I think lack of early success blew his confidence.

We were midway through the first season when I first said to a friend of mine "that's not the guy we saw in the presser".

So this isn't something new.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think lack of early success blew his confidence.

We were midway through the first season when I first said to a friend of mine "that's not the guy we saw in the presser".

So this isn't something new.

I specifically remember you making a comment after year one about how Ron was the type of coach to never take his foit off a teams neck or off the throttle. I think your doung some revisionist history of your own opinions at the time.

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