Oh how close we were

[gorillamilitia13]

18 minutes ago, Semaj said:

What are we waiting for. The goal is consistency. 2 winning seasons with 1 outlier and a super bowl appearance isn't good enough. We should be striving for consistent excellence. This year is a disgrace. Who thought we weren't going to meet our goal of first ever back to back winning seasons? He is mediocre. We don't need or want that. Wish him well. A good guy. But at the end of the day, just like it is for salesman of the year winners, What have you done for me lately? He has gone from Hero to Zero in 1 season. Unacceptable!

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How can a team with Keuchly and Cam fail to be a consistent winning team?

[SetfreexX]

I think we keep McDermott, but who is it on when the DB's are lining up 7, 10, 12 yards off the receiver on 3rd and 1?

Shula needs to go, IMO promote Dorsey if you want playbook continuity, and someone Cam seems to have a good relationship with. 

[bigdog10]

4 hours ago, beastson said:

Like I mentioned before

John Fox last 3 years in Denver (you know the coach Ron replaced here)

Record 13-3 Lost to Ravens, who went on to win the SB in Divisional Round

Record 13-3 Lost SB to Seattle

Record 12-4 Lost in Divisional Round to Colts

Fired. Denver goes on to win the SB right after

So why are we giving Ron a pass? The injuries excuses needs to go away, we was garbage before the injuries. There's enough talent on this team to not finish 4-12. 2 out of 6 seasons over .500 isn't going to cut it. He's never been a good coach

This post is the thread ender. Well done. Completely nailed it. 

[gorillamilitia13]

1 hour ago, SetfreexX said:

I think we keep McDermott, but who is it on when the DB's are lining up 7, 10, 12 yards off the receiver on 3rd and 1?

Shula needs to go, IMO promote Dorsey if you want playbook continuity, and someone Cam seems to have a good relationship with. 

I've been having my doubts about McDermott lately too. In the NFL qb's lick their chops when they see DB's lining up that far away from their receivers. 

[outlaw4]

4 hours ago, Harbingers said:

We all know why Denver won. A certain player needed a certain ring to ride him off into the sunset. 

Depending on how they Miami and KC do in the next few weeks may not even make the playoffs. 

Time will tell but Kubiak could turn out to be a better coach than Fox or the next Jon Gruden/Barry Switzer. With the QB's they have right now, my best guess is that he'll do no better than what he did with the Texans.

Now, there was another team that also fired a coach that had a good record: San Diego. At the time, I thought firing Schottenheimer was a mistake after a 14-2 season and losing to the Patriots in the playoffs. They went with Norv and while they still had playoff runs, didn't reach the Super Bowl. 

Now watch us fire Ron for Norv so we become the Chargers East.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

Honestly only thing I know about Marc James is that video, haven't heard of him before. Just thought he made some good points in it.

Don't bother researching any further.

[Harbingers]

55 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

Time will tell but Kubiak could turn out to be a better coach than Fox. 

He coasted in NFL win Payton a ring game. I was there. He may not make the playoffs. Denver is in cap he'll almost worse than the cowboys watch how quickly they crumble. 

The panthers however are bright and sunny in cap. Which is why we brought Gett in.

[outlaw4]

24 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

He coasted in NFL win Payton a ring game. I was there. He may not make the playoffs. Denver is in cap he'll almost worse than the cowboys watch how quickly they crumble. 

The panthers however are bright and sunny in cap. Which is why we brought Gett in.

I'm quite aware of the cap situation. That's why I've been more patient than many others. Our future is set up much better than other teans that will have cap issues and/or has a plethora of aging pieces. The thing, though, is that this offseason has to be different for us. We finally have the flexibility to extend contracts for the good players we have and pick up new players that were likely outside our price range in the past. It's time to use our cap space and use it wisely. Otherwise, I have to question the whole strategy.

Even now, Kubiak's decision to kick that long FG in that situation baffles me. Big risk that may cost the Broncos if things don't fall their way.

[Harbingers]

14 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

Even now, Kubiak's decision to kick that long FG 

He tried to win. Just like Rivera would, just like arians, just like belicheck would have.

[outlaw4]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

He tried to win. Just like Rivera would, just like arians, just like belicheck would have.

Technically, it is a decision to go for the win but it's a gamble more than a calculated risk. 

Rivera would've punted. A weenie move but the alternative is trust that Gano could hit a 62 yarder in crunch time and avoid having it blocked. Both options are terrible, tbh.

[The_Rainmaker]

8 hours ago, beastson said:

Like I mentioned before

John Fox last 3 years in Denver (you know the coach Ron replaced here)

Record 13-3 Lost to Ravens, who went on to win the SB in Divisional Round

Record 13-3 Lost SB to Seattle

Record 12-4 Lost in Divisional Round to Colts

Fired. Denver goes on to win the SB right after

So why are we giving Ron a pass? The injuries excuses needs to go away, we was garbage before the injuries. There's enough talent on this team to not finish 4-12. 2 out of 6 seasons over .500 isn't going to cut it. He's never been a good coach

If had consistent OL for his offense he could win something, but GM never game him the proper talent. 

[Lumps]

8 hours ago, beastson said:

Like I mentioned before

John Fox last 3 years in Denver (you know the coach Ron replaced here)

Record 13-3 Lost to Ravens, who went on to win the SB in Divisional Round

Record 13-3 Lost SB to Seattle

Record 12-4 Lost in Divisional Round to Colts

Fired. Denver goes on to win the SB right after

So why are we giving Ron a pass? The injuries excuses needs to go away, we was garbage before the injuries. There's enough talent on this team to not finish 4-12. 2 out of 6 seasons over .500 isn't going to cut it. He's never been a good coach

This isn't Denver. JR is not Elway. This organization moves extremely slow and drags things out. Unfortunately JR will let Rivera coach his contract and painfully, slowly play this out until it's way overdue. All we can hope for is what players have been doing with his staff...fighting the play calling and finding a way to win despite crap coaching.

[JoePanther]

How would Cam respond, if he were asked to keep or fire Ron? Any thoughts?

Also (and maybe I could wrong on this), but I believe that Cam's chemistry with his receivers is just not there as it was in previous years.

Jericho used to be a great safety blanket, who would make catches, that I don't think Cam has built that trust yet with Benjamin or Funchess. Furthermore, Tolbert has regressed massively and Stewart is always injured.

The bottom line, the personal around Cam has gotten really worse on offense. On defense, the personal is not better either ...

How is this on the coaching staff, if reliable players are just not there anymore? Who is responsible for that? Isn't that the GM? Ron has proven, he can win with the right personal. 

Finding the right coach in this league is not an easy task. You could end up with a Chip Kelly, a Doug Peterson ... Or even a Lovie Smith ... 

If you were to fire Ron, who do you bring to replace him? and why?

[panthers55]

8 hours ago, beastson said:

All I'm saying is why is the Panthers settling on winning a division and going to the playoffs. The goal is to win the SB and Ron got out-coached in our biggest game, then he follows that up getting out-coached the next season again

2014 is turning out to be a gift and curse for us. We shouldn't have won the division and went to the playoffs with that record. Ron gets credit for that season thus giving him a pass to not be replaced, just ignoring the fact we weren't good that year

You must be foolish enough to believe you can just replace Ron and that person will instantly be better. Tell me a coach who immediately will be better than Ron, is available for hire, and has a proven track record of head coach experience. And wants to take over a 4-12 Panther team with a GM who has proven to be unpopular with players and agents and has shown no evidence he will spend the money needed to improve this team. And don't say Norv Turner. Rivera has a much better track record that Turner.