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The Goodwill Donation. Anyone Know?


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48 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Not trying to be a smartass, but that post was specifically in response to my post which didn't challenge Goodwill's status as a charity---and one that does some good works in the community---just that their top execs were making an exorbitant amount of money in my opinion, especially as compared to the employees in their stores. You acknowledged it with a decidedly apologetic response, but I decided to let it ride. @panthers1234 decided to call you on it.

Different charities have different goals---nothing wrong with that---but when a lot of people think of charities, they don't necessarily like the idea of execs becoming millionaires from charitable contributions. That's not their first thought. They believe a chunk of that money could/should be allotted to the community programs that you laud. That's the real bottom line. 

Oh for fugs sake...

I'm not going to either defend or argue about Goodwill. 

H0llywood said they were a company and I simply pointed out that they were a charity. 

 

If you want to argue the semantics of a post I suggest you check out the tinderbox. 

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1 hour ago, csx said:

It's a piece of poo. They exploit disabled workers and overpay executives.  It's a farce of a charity. 

 

There is no defending these actions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/more-disabled-workers-paid-just-pennies-hour-v19916979

There is no way any of this is possible. Let's add numbers-

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The non-profits use “time studies” to calculate the salaries of Section 14 (c) workers. With a stopwatch, staff members time how long it takes a disabled worker to complete a task. That time is compared with how long it would take a person without a disability to do the same task. The non-profit then applies a formula to calculate a rate of pay, which may be equal to or less than minimum wage. The tests are repeated every six months, and wages can rise or fall.

So pay is based on how long it takes to perform a task. If Sally makes 7.25 an hour to hang shirts, and can do thirty an hour-

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Dan Buron, executive director of Goodwill Industries of Southeastern Michigan, which paid a worker six cents an hour in 2010

-then in order for Billy to make .06 an hour to perform the same task, it would take him 121 hours to hang thirty shirts.

 

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Was exagerrating it a company but to ensure the effect that it runs its company like one despite its tax designation. Thats all thay isx a tax exempt designation.

My point being, real charities not raking in millions for execs. Similar to Wounded Warrior Project. I'm a vet and i will never give them another penny because of crooked execs making more $ than what the charity gives back.

Does Goodwill do good for the community? Yes, that wasn't ever questioned. Scientology does as well but that's neither here no there.

But, I didn't want to derail the thread not my intention. Good luck to those who can snag these items.

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22 hours ago, panthers1234 said:

The salvation army top guy only gets paid 13k a year. The thing is most people are greedy and will take a bigger piece of the pie when they have control of a company. Goodwill's top guy pockets north of 2 million. Would you donate to a place that gives back 95% or 50%. It all depends on the charity too so I suggest you do research instead of lumping them all together. 

The Goodwill guy doesn't make anywhere close to two million.  That information comes from one of a host of fake stories that are out on the internet.  

https://www.reference.com/business-finance/salary-goodwill-s-ceo-2014-839a6f1f6c606b3a#

 

Also, the salvation army's CEO pay is much higher than 13,000.  About 10 times higher.

http://give.org/charity-reviews/national/religious/salvation-army-national-corporation-in-alexandria-va-1221

 

  • Chief Executive

    William A. Roberts, National Commander

  • Compensation*

    $131,243

 

That being said, I like the salvation army, but they can't do much of what the other organizations such as Good Will and Red Cross do, primarily because they don't have the background and infrastructure. And if you want the background and infrastructure, you have pay for professionals to run it.

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39 minutes ago, h0llywood said:

Was exagerrating it a company but to ensure the effect that it runs its company like one despite its tax designation. Thats all thay isx a tax exempt designation.

My point being, real charities not raking in millions for execs. Similar to Wounded Warrior Project. I'm a vet and i will never give them another penny because of crooked execs making more $ than what the charity gives back.

Does Goodwill do good for the community? Yes, that wasn't ever questioned. Scientology does as well but that's neither here no there.

http://www.ohio.com/news/local/bob-dyer-bad-will-toward-goodwill-isn-t-justified-1.366882

The internet is both a blessing and a curse.

To many people take things they read on the internet as gospel truth.  Of course, I did get this off the internet, so feel free to do your own research.  :)

 

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Thumbnail rundowns on a number of charities followed. Goodwill’s entry said:

“CEO and owner Mark Curran profits $2.3 million a year.

“Goodwill is a very catchy name for his business.

“You donate to his business and then he sells the items for PROFIT.

“He pays nothing for his products and pays his workers minimum wage! Nice Guy.

“$0.00 goes to help anyone!

“Stop giving to this man.”

Nice rant. Slight problem: It isn’t true.

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For starters, the CEO is not Mark Curran. It’s Jim Gibbons, who has been in that position for five years. More to the point, Goodwill’s CEO makes $725,000 a year, not $2.3 million.

Gosh, missed it by a mere $1,575,000.00.

Gibbons’ salary is public knowledge. Anyone can look it up because the Form 990 tax returns of charity organizations are posted on the Internet. (Wow! I love the Internet!)

And Goodwill is not a profit-making operation. It is a nonprofit group that spends its money on job-training, job placement and other community-based programs for people who have disabilities, lack education or face other barriers to normal employment.

Does Goodwill pay low wages? You betcha. But many of the people receiving those wages wouldn’t find work elsewhere.

The independent group CharityWatch gives Goodwill a rating of “A.” It says Goodwill uses 85 percent of the money it takes in on its programs.

 

If one wants to give to the salvation army, that's great.  But nothing wrong with giving to goodwill either.  

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