Ladies and gentlemen, the Cleveland Browns

[outlaw4]

The Browns are the type of organization that whatever decision they make will be the wrong one. Pick Trubisky and he'll probably be the next Blaine Gabbert. Not pick Trubisky and he'll go to the right team and thrive. 

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

The Browns are the type of organization that whatever decision they make will be the wrong one. Pick Trubisky and he'll probably be the next Blaine Gabbert. Not pick Trubisky and he'll go to the right team and thrive. 

Sad but true.

[Mr. Miagi]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Browns considering Mitch Trubisky with #1 pick

Not to slam Trubisky, but is there really a good argument for him going #1 overall?

Yes. Imo, Trubisky is a better prospect than Wentz last year. Plus the Browns need a damn QB. 

I don't think Garrett is that special of a talent. He's not on tier of Clowney or Mario Williams as a prospect. 

[Steve_Smith_Sr.]

How about Manziel?

 

Too soon?  LOL

[Hoenheim]

5 hours ago, MV%doe said:

Cleveland had #1 and #12, in-between 3 QBs could get drafted. They should take the best player on their board, then have deals in place to move up form 12 to land their favorite QB. Panthers at #8, we've done business last year.....

 

Fyi panthers are going crazy about 4 out of 98, Cleveland has 4 out of 65 in this deep draft.

Trading down with the Browns is actually perfect for us if everyone ahead of us makes the safest predictable non-QB picks imaginable. No QBs taken by our pick then Gettleman's phone will be ringing off the hook and the Browns probably have the best trade down option for us. We only slide 4 picks down in the 1st, pick up their 2nd rounder . That means we end up with  a high 1st rounder, two top ten second rounders, and two third rounders.

[csx]

13 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Trading down with the Browns is actually perfect for us if everyone ahead of us makes the safest predictable non-QB picks imaginable. No QBs taken by our pick then Gettleman's phone will be ringing off the hook and the Browns probably have the best trade down option for us. We only slide 4 picks down in the 1st, pick up their 2nd rounder . That means we end up with  a high 1st rounder, two top ten second rounders, and two third rounders.

Considering there is no chance we take a QB the Bengals would be a better trade partner for the Browns.

[Proudiddy]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Shocking that a four year starter had more command over the offense than a first year starter, right?

Trubisky's accuracy is phenomenal.

I hope the Browns pass on him simply because I'm curious to see how he'll do in the NFL and Cleveland is an NFL graveyard and a dumpster fire of an organization.

To me, there was a marked difference between the two, even in the infancy of their tenures.  Trubisky just seemed overhyped to me.  Williams often willed his team to win and, for the most part, seemed to be solid with reads and accuracy.  Trubisky, for a more traditional-from-the-pocket-passer, seemed to struggle a lot more woth reads and decision making than he should have throwing from the pocket, which was supposedly his strength.

And while yes, Williams had a few boneheaded moments (late INT vs SC in the season opener 2 years ago), he in many instances was the primary reason his team was in the game.  Trubisky made several mistakes that cost his team games or put them at risk to losing them more than I expected after hearing so much about him before he became the starter.

Just saying, I was actually surprised he was thrown in 1st round consideration after watching him play quite a bit.  Not saying he won't be an adequate starter at some point, but I think the odds are much higher that he falls short of expectations - whatever they may be.  Just my opinion...

[LinvilleGorge]

55 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

To me, there was a marked difference between the two, even in the infancy of their tenures.  Trubisky just seemed overhyped to me.  Williams often willed his team to win and, for the most part, seemed to be solid with reads and accuracy.  Trubisky, for a more traditional-from-the-pocket-passer, seemed to struggle a lot more woth reads and decision making than he should have throwing from the pocket, which was supposedly his strength.

And while yes, Williams had a few boneheaded moments (late INT vs SC in the season opener 2 years ago), he in many instances was the primary reason his team was in the game.  Trubisky made several mistakes that cost his team games or put them at risk to losing them more than I expected after hearing so much about him before he became the starter.

Just saying, I was actually surprised he was thrown in 1st round consideration after watching him play quite a bit.  Not saying he won't be an adequate starter at some point, but I think the odds are much higher that he falls short of expectations - whatever they may be.  Just my opinion...

Marquise Williams as a senior:

218/356 (61.2%) for 3068 yards 24 TDs and 10 INTs

Mitch Trubisky:

304/447 (68%) for 3748 yards 30 TDs and 6 INTs

I'm honestly not sure what you were watching, but let me remind you...

10/14 on the final drive with three 4th down conversions and the last second TD. This against the same Pitt team that beat Clemson picking off Watson 3 times.

Don't forget going 38 yards in 9 seconds vs. FSU to setup the game winning FG.

70%+ passing percentage in 7 games.

He had three bad games. His debut against UGA on the road, the Virginia Tech game that was literally played in a hurricane, and the Stanford game in the bowl game. But let's be honest, Fedora UNC teams have sucked in bowls and Soloman Thomas sonned the UNC OL so badly it was reminiscent of watching Von Miller in the Super Bowl.

[top dawg]

6 hours ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

im sure plenty of people here can say the same but as a person who watched every snap of his college career, i agree with this post. felt like the mental aspect didn't come very quickly for a "top of the draft" qb. he was definitely let down by play calling and defense throughout the season but he still never really looked like a potential top pick in the draft. bet he kills it at the combine and his pro day though

Well, that's the thing. Comparatively he doesn't have that many reps, so the "mental aspect" isn't necessarily going to come quickly. The more experience that he gets, the more polished the mental aspect of the game will become.

Dude is raw, but he can make every throw with NFL-type accuracy from the little I've seen. He can throw with anticipation, and also throw into the tight windows that will be warranted at the pro level. Once he gets the reps, he just may be an above average QB. He is so green right now, that you arguably have to do a little more projection than normal with the guy. But, I like what I've seen. 

[Snake]

8 hours ago, csx said:

Considering there is no chance we take a QB the Bengals would be a better trade partner for the Browns.

Unless a team like the Cards are looking for a QB. 

[Montsta]

14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Trubisky over someone like Myles Garrett though?

You'd have to have a pretty impressive argument to talk me into that.

Carr over Peppers worked out well too, so there is that. 

[electro's horse]

trubisky is trash

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Carr over Peppers worked out well too, so there is that. 

Joey Harrington at number three...

[LinvilleGorge]

Future HOF DEs Erasmus James and Marcus Spears were drafted ahead of Aaron Rodgers. 

Oh wait, never mind. They've both been out of the league for years and combined for a grand total of 15 sacks.