We have 12 million in cap space as of 3-13-17

[carpanfan96]

9 minutes ago, zacka77ack said:

the first 2 picks alone are worth 4.2 million.

3.125 - the bottom contract value of the current top 51. 

Repeat for each rookie contract. 

Right now that number is 540k, 7 contracts sit at the bottom 51 worth exactly 540k. 

 

So the #8 pick is really adding 2.858m to the top 51 cap. 

#40 is really adding 629k.

#64 is really adding 214k.

The picks from 98 through 192 add another 300k roughly. 

The reason you don't have to figure in signing bonuses and such is those bottom contracts are usually flat 1 year deals with no guaranteed money. 

 

So really this years draft picks are really just adding 4.1m to the cap. 

 

[bababoey]

the first 2 picks alone are worth 4.2 million.

Do they teach classes on salary cap 🤔🤔🤔

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[Fox007]

22 minutes ago, chknwing said:

well oher is gonna be a june 1st cut which will save $4.5 million of cap.

And I'd get rid of Dickson that'd allow us to pick up Cook and maybe 1 more.

We are likely done with some minor exceptions though....maybe a later tier WR.

[TheSpecialJuan]

If Oher passes the concussion test, we're keeping him.

[panther4life]

I updated the spreadsheet with picks 8,40, and 62. They are the only ones that will be in the top 51 if the draft were today. I came up with a net cost of just under 3.1 Million for the rookie class. 

 

 

[carpanfan96]

Just now, panther4life said:

I updated the spreadsheet with picks 8,40, and 62. They are the only ones that will be in the top 51 if the draft were today. I came up with a net cost of just under 3.1 Million for the rookie class. 

 

 

Picks 98 through 192 will count 300k. Pick #8 is 2.8m itself and picks 40 and 64 add another 600k and 214k. The bottom 6-7 contracts are only worth 540k not the vet minimum. 

[bababoey]

Picks 98 through 192 will count 300k. Pick #8 is 2.8m itself and picks 40 and 64 add another 600k and 214k. The bottom 6-7 contracts are only worth 540k not the vet minimum. 

Huh 🤔🤔🤔🤔

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[panther4life]

5 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Picks 98 through 192 will count 300k. Pick #8 is 2.8m itself and picks 40 and 64 add another 600k and 214k. The bottom 6-7 contracts are only worth 540k not the vet minimum. 

I am totally open to being wrong but nobody who gets paid to do this shitt for us seems to be willing to put in the effort. Anyway here is what I come up with when adding rookie deals.

Cam Newton	$20,166,000
Kawann Short	$13,387,000
Luke Kuechly	$12,363,324
Greg Olsen	$10,350,000
Ryan Kalil	$8,329,000
Jonathan Stewart	$8,250,000
Thomas Davis	$8,250,000
Star Lotulelei	$6,757,000
Michael Oher	$5,500,000
Charles Johnson	$4,359,375
Mario Addison	$4,354,166
Graham Gano	$4,000,000
Julius Peppers	$3,750,000.00
Kurt Coleman	$3,650,000
Matt Kalil	3,400,000
PICK #8	$3,121,693.00
Andrew Norwell	$2,746,000
Ed Dickson	$2,716,668
Andy Lee	$2,625,000
Russell Shepard	$2,500,000.00
Captain Munnerlyn	$2,500,000
Kelvin Benjamin	$2,438,625
Shaq Thompson	$2,402,380
Derek Anderson	$2,250,000
Charles Johnson	2,200,000
Trai Turner	$1,931,950
Vernon Butler	$1,908,299
Tre Boston	$1,898,367
Mike Adams	$1,775,000
PICK #40	$1,169,874.00
Devin Funchess	$1,505,698
Fozzy Whittaker	$1,350,000
Colin Jones	$1,225,000
Wes Horton	1,250,000
Gino Gradkowski	$1,050,000
Jeffrey Jansen	$1,040,000
Joe Webb	$1,000,000
James Bradberry	$900,190
Daryl Worley	$775,724
Daryl Williams	$754,280
Chris Scott	$695,000.00
Ben jacobs	$695,000.00
Brenton Bersin	$695,000.00
Amini Silatolu	$695,000
Scott Simonson	$690,000
L.J. McCray	$665,000
Cameron Artis-Payne	$656,563
David Mayo	$656,563
PICK #62	$640,650.00
Dean Marlowe	$620,000
Ryan Delaire	$615,000

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, panther4life said:

I am totally open to being wrong but nobody who gets paid to do this shitt for us seems to be willing to put in the effort. Anyway here is what I come up with when adding rookie deals.

Cam Newton	$20,166,000
Kawann Short	$13,387,000
Luke Kuechly	$12,363,324
Greg Olsen	$10,350,000
Ryan Kalil	$8,329,000
Jonathan Stewart	$8,250,000
Thomas Davis	$8,250,000
Star Lotulelei	$6,757,000
Michael Oher	$5,500,000
Charles Johnson	$4,359,375
Mario Addison	$4,354,166
Graham Gano	$4,000,000
Julius Peppers	$3,750,000.00
Kurt Coleman	$3,650,000
Matt Kalil	3,400,000
PICK #8	$3,121,693.00
Andrew Norwell	$2,746,000
Ed Dickson	$2,716,668
Andy Lee	$2,625,000
Russell Shepard	$2,500,000.00
Captain Munnerlyn	$2,500,000
Kelvin Benjamin	$2,438,625
Shaq Thompson	$2,402,380
Derek Anderson	$2,250,000
Charles Johnson	2,200,000
Trai Turner	$1,931,950
Vernon Butler	$1,908,299
Tre Boston	$1,898,367
Mike Adams	$1,775,000
PICK #40	$1,169,874.00
Devin Funchess	$1,505,698
Fozzy Whittaker	$1,350,000
Colin Jones	$1,225,000
Wes Horton	1,250,000
Gino Gradkowski	$1,050,000
Jeffrey Jansen	$1,040,000
Joe Webb	$1,000,000
James Bradberry	$900,190
Daryl Worley	$775,724
Daryl Williams	$754,280
Chris Scott	$695,000.00
Ben jacobs	$695,000.00
Brenton Bersin	$695,000.00
Amini Silatolu	$695,000
Scott Simonson	$690,000
L.J. McCray	$665,000
Cameron Artis-Payne	$656,563
David Mayo	$656,563
PICK #62	$640,650.00
Dean Marlowe	$620,000
Ryan Delaire	$615,000

  Plus we have 1.9M in dead money. 

[bababoey]

I am totally open to being wrong but nobody who gets paid to do this shitt for us seems to be willing to put in the effort. Anyway here is what I come up with when adding rookie deals.

Cam Newton	$20,166,000
Kawann Short	$13,387,000
Luke Kuechly	$12,363,324
Greg Olsen	$10,350,000
Ryan Kalil	$8,329,000
Jonathan Stewart	$8,250,000
Thomas Davis	$8,250,000
Star Lotulelei	$6,757,000
Michael Oher	$5,500,000
Charles Johnson	$4,359,375
Mario Addison	$4,354,166
Graham Gano	$4,000,000
Julius Peppers	$3,750,000.00
Kurt Coleman	$3,650,000
Matt Kalil	3,400,000
PICK #8	$3,121,693.00
Andrew Norwell	$2,746,000
Ed Dickson	$2,716,668
Andy Lee	$2,625,000
Russell Shepard	$2,500,000.00
Captain Munnerlyn	$2,500,000
Kelvin Benjamin	$2,438,625
Shaq Thompson	$2,402,380
Derek Anderson	$2,250,000
Charles Johnson	2,200,000
Trai Turner	$1,931,950
Vernon Butler	$1,908,299
Tre Boston	$1,898,367
Mike Adams	$1,775,000
PICK #40	$1,169,874.00
Devin Funchess	$1,505,698
Fozzy Whittaker	$1,350,000
Colin Jones	$1,225,000
Wes Horton	1,250,000
Gino Gradkowski	$1,050,000
Jeffrey Jansen	$1,040,000
Joe Webb	$1,000,000
James Bradberry	$900,190
Daryl Worley	$775,724
Daryl Williams	$754,280
Chris Scott	$695,000.00
Ben jacobs	$695,000.00
Brenton Bersin	$695,000.00
Amini Silatolu	$695,000
Scott Simonson	$690,000
L.J. McCray	$665,000
Cameron Artis-Payne	$656,563
David Mayo	$656,563
PICK #62	$640,650.00
Dean Marlowe	$620,000
Ryan Delaire	$615,000

That's a bunch of numbers

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[chknwing]

Theres not many open roster spots for carolina.  They do not need to use all their picks.  8th pick salary isn't ideal for getty.  He may want to go a cheaper route.  I think Carolina moves down 5-7 spots in the 1st round picking up a 2nd.  Moves their late 2nd up 15 spots by trading their 3rd/4th etc.  They now have 4 picks in the top 50.  Who would they pick? 

[cookinbrak]

54 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

If Oher passes the concussion test, we're keeping him.

I read somewhere that if Oher is ready to go, he could move over to RT.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

3.125 - the bottom contract value of the current top 51. 

Repeat for each rookie contract. 

Right now that number is 540k, 7 contracts sit at the bottom 51 worth exactly 540k. 

 

So the #8 pick is really adding 2.858m to the top 51 cap. 

#40 is really adding 629k.

#64 is really adding 214k.

The picks from 98 through 192 add another 300k roughly. 

The reason you don't have to figure in signing bonuses and such is those bottom contracts are usually flat 1 year deals with no guaranteed money. 

 

So really this years draft picks are really just adding 4.1m to the cap. 

 

I am assuming your'e right because I don't have the patience or desire to figure this stuff out. I just know that it always takes around 4-5 mil  to sign rookies. At least that's what I've always heard for the last few years.

[Ace_Aladdin]

2 hours ago, panther4life said:

Most the info came from overthecap.com. I filled in the blanks for them. Format may be shitty, don't know until I post. But below is our top 51 contracts that count against the cap for 2017.

EDIT: As others pointed out I forgot the roll over money from 16. According to the NFLPA https://www.nflpa.com/public-salary-cap-report that number was $13,208,020

I also forgot the dead money from this year. Should be correct now.

So current top 51 = $166,137,172

+ 1,885.303 in dead money = $168,022,475. 

Cap is 167 Million and we rolled over 13,208,020. So effective cap is $180,208,020. Subtract the top 51 and dead money total of $168,022,475 and you get a cap space number of $12,185,545.

I'd also like to add I completely guessed on Scott,Bersin,and Jacobs. I went low, so if they come back with more money that will reduce the space some.

EDIT 2.0 I added rookie class to original spreadsheet. Picks 8,40 and 62 cracked the top 51.  That made the top 51 now = 169,224,389 + the 1,885,303 in dead money brings us to $171,109,692 subtract that number from the Adjusted cap of $180,208,020 and you get $9,098,328 in space.

Cam Newton	$20,166,000
Kawann Short	$13,387,000
Luke Kuechly	$12,363,324
Greg Olsen	$10,350,000
Ryan Kalil	$8,329,000
Jonathan Stewart	$8,250,000
Thomas Davis	$8,250,000
Star Lotulelei	$6,757,000
Michael Oher	$5,500,000
Charles Johnson	$4,359,375
Mario Addison	$4,354,166
Graham Gano	$4,000,000
Julius Peppers	$3,750,000.00
Kurt Coleman	$3,650,000
Matt Kalil	3,400,000
Andrew Norwell	$2,746,000
Ed Dickson	$2,716,668
Andy Lee	$2,625,000
Russell Shepard	$2,500,000.00
Captain Munnerlyn	$2,500,000
Kelvin Benjamin	$2,438,625
Shaq Thompson	$2,402,380
Derek Anderson	$2,250,000
Charles Johnson	2,200,000
Trai Turner	$1,931,950
Vernon Butler	$1,908,299
Tre Boston	$1,898,367
Mike Adams	$1,775,000
Devin Funchess	$1,505,698
Fozzy Whittaker	$1,350,000
Colin Jones	$1,225,000
Wes Horton	1,250,000
Gino Gradkowski	$1,050,000
Jeffrey Jansen	$1,040,000
Joe Webb	$1,000,000
James Bradberry	$900,190
Daryl Worley	$775,724
Daryl Williams	$754,280
Chris Scott	$695,000.00
Ben jacobs	$695,000.00
Brenton Bersin	$695,000.00
Amini Silatolu	$695,000
Scott Simonson	$690,000
L.J. McCray	$665,000
Cameron Artis-Payne	$656,563
David Mayo	$656,563
Dean Marlowe	$620,000
Ryan Delaire	$615,000
David Yankey	$615,000
Tyler Patmon	$615,000
Darrel Young	$615,000

 

2 hours ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

and we need an additional $10M for rookie contracts.

Dave is turning into Marty 2.0

 

2 hours ago, bababoey said:

Not if your saying the cap is 167 million.  167 is the base for all teams before adding their carryover.  So we have about 180millon.  The Chiefs had about 167,000,000.32.  Its all relative.

We cut Dickson & Lee while restructure J-Stew that should bring in between 5-7 million extra?

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