College Records

[Mr. Scot]

Here's a little quiz about college football record holders.

Without googling, can you name the player who...

1. Broke numerous NCAA passing records in the late 90s, including one for over 4,000 passing yards in a season

2. Ran for 313 yards against Ohio State to become his school's second all time single game rusher

3. Set an FBS record for with nearly 6,400 career rushing yards that stood till it was broken by a player drafted just this year

4. Passed for over 17,000 yards in his FBS career to rank second all time in that category

5. Set the NCAA record for yards rushing in a single season by a quarterback

6. Just four years ago tied his SEC school's single season sack record, racking up more than a prior alumnus who was a five time Pro Bowler in the NFL

7. Holds the FBS record for highest career passer efficiency rating

8. Broke the single season record for all purpose yards previously set by Barry Sanders at Oklahoma State

Answer key below...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Answers:

1. Tim Couch

2. Tshimanga Biakabutuka

3. Ron Dayne

4. Timmy Chang

5. Cam Newton (duh if you didn't get that one)

6. Michael Sam

7. Sam Bradford

8. Christian McCaffrey

 

If you looked up the pro careers of the players listed above, you'll find only Newton has been a stellar success.  Other than that there are a few moderate successes (Dayne, maybe Bradford) but most of that list is made up of guys whose professional careers were inconsequential (or nonexistent).

And then there's that last guy...

 

My question: How seriously do you take record setting college performances when players are drafted?

Are those college records really worth anything more than just bragging rights? 

Why or why not?

[Mage]

Well if it wasn't for McCaffrey, it would be 2 players on that list who found NFL success (Sanders, maybe the best RB of all time).

But always study the player, not the numbers. 

[bababoey]

For #5 you need to put single season, I was thinking career.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Mage said:

Well if it wasn't for McCaffrey, it would be 2 players on that list who found NFL success (Sanders, maybe the best RB of all time).

But always study the player, not the numbers. 

I think people get way too hung up on stats in general, both at the college and the pro level.

There are loads of guys who look dominant at the college level who just aren't built for the pros.

[ladypanther]

So....know where this is going.  I do not think Gettleman, et al rely on stats.  I bet no one watches more film than our Boston Boss.

[shaqattaq]

55 minutes ago, Mage said:

Sanders, maybe the best RB of all time

Walter Peyton. But Sanders was a magnificent beast.

[L-TownCat]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here's a little quiz about college football record holders.

Without googling, can you name the player who...

1. Broke numerous NCAA passing records in the late 90s, including one for over 4,000 passing yards in a season

2. Ran for 313 yards against Ohio State to become his school's second all time single game rusher

3. Set an FBS record for with nearly 6,400 career rushing yards that stood till it was broken by a player drafted just this year

4. Passed for over 17,000 yards in his FBS career to rank second all time in that category

5. Set the NCAA record for yards rushing in a single season by a quarterback

6. Just four years ago tied his SEC school's single season sack record, racking up more than a prior alumnus who was a five time Pro Bowler in the NFL

7. Holds the FBS record for highest career passer efficiency rating

8. Broke the single season record for all purpose yards previously set by Barry Sanders at Oklahoma State

Answer key below...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Answers:

1. Tim Couch

2. Tshimanga Biakabutuka

3. Ron Dayne

4. Timmy Chang

5. Cam Newton (duh if you didn't get that one)

6. Michael Sam

7. Sam Bradford

8. Christian McCaffrey

 

If you looked up the pro careers of the players listed above, you'll find only Newton has been a stellar success.  Other than that there are a few moderate successes (Dayne, maybe Bradford) but most of that list is made up of guys whose professional careers were inconsequential (or nonexistent).

And then there's that last guy...

 

My question: How seriously do you take record setting college performances when players are drafted?

Are those college records really worth anything more than just bragging rights? 

Why or why not?

It's just so hard to project what will work in the NFL vs what happened in College.

Big physical specimens tend to translate a little better than the smaller more athletic guys but still it's a crap shoot.

[t96]

I take essentially all stats with a grain of salt. I'll look at stats to see if they support what I see on the field, but for the most part stats are as much a product of the other 10 guys on the field as they are the player who has the stats. 

 

[Cyberjag]

Timmy B would have been pretty good if he hadn't gotten hurt.

Football is very much a team sport too, which is why individual records may not translate well from college to pro.

[Navy_football]

52 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Walter Peyton. But Sanders was a magnificent beast.

No sir. Barry was the best running back I have ever seen, and I saw the tail end of Walter too. Bo was close but just didn't last. Walter could take over a game, but Barry could dominate it - change it in one play.

And there were no other options on that team in Detroit. Barry was the most exciting player in the NFL when he played. You wouldn't miss the sorry Lions play because you didn't want to miss Barry do something spectacular. 

[Navy_football]

18 minutes ago, Cyberjag said:

Timmy B would have been pretty good if he hadn't gotten hurt.

Football is very much a team sport too, which is why individual records may not translate well from college to pro.

That and scheme. I never understand why teams draft players that don't fit into their scheme. It'll take years to learn a new way of doing things, no matter how gifted an athlete you are. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, Navy_football said:

That and scheme. I never understand why teams draft players that don't fit into their scheme. It'll take years to learn a new way of doing things, no matter how gifted an athlete you are. 

There are some teams that follow a "change the scheme to fit the players" model (we're not one of them).

I think we've had that debate on here before.

[Navy_football]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There are some teams that follow a "change the scheme to fit the players" model (we're not one of them).

I think we've had that debate on here before.

I missed the previous discussion, but I don't agree with changing for a player or two. Now 10-15 veterans have to learn a new scheme as well. 

[Mr. Scot]

33 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I missed the previous discussion, but I don't agree with changing for a player or two. Now 10-15 veterans have to learn a new scheme as well. 

Some would argue we're doing that with McCaffrey and Samuel.

I disagree.

The team has an offensive "evolution" in mind, and that's why they chose McCaffrey and Samuel. Specifically because they fit what we want this evolution to look like 

We're not putting the cart before the horse here.