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Jonathan Stewart #1 Elusive HB w13-17

The Huddler

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People sleeping on Stewart. For those of you naysayers citing "age," understand he's split carries for most of his career, so he should be more durable than most RBs at that age.

Durable and Stewart don't go together, honestly. He's never completed a full season as the lead back due to injury. I've always wondered why he didn't try to lose some bulk to ease the pressure on his ankles. Looks like he's done that this off-season. He's a beast when healthy though. Can't take that away from him.

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3 hours ago, The Huddler said:

Posted a week ago showing he had by far the most broken tackles in the league. Stew also showing off his elusiveness as well. Pretty impressive. I think the new additions on offense will open it up more for him. 

 

J-Stew's vision is pretty good, imagine him not having 8 man box consistently and OL that can block. 

Hopefully his Madden rating goes up 1,000 + yds season!!!!

The traditonal run game

 

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1 hour ago, sanjay_rajput said:

 

J-Stew's vision is pretty good, imagine him not having 8 man box consistently and OL that can block. 

Hopefully his Madden rating goes up 1,000 + yds season!!!!

The traditonal run game

 

Hopefully he helps us make a deep run in the playoffs. That seems a lot more important to me than if his Madden ratings goes up. Apparently our priorities are very different...

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4 hours ago, Saca312 said:

People sleeping on Stewart. For those of you naysayers citing "age," understand he's split carries for most of his career, so he should be more durable than most RBs at that age.

Not sure durability is the word I'd use. But I would definitely say he's saved alot of his prime atheticism by splitting carries. 

If Stewart went to a team to be the #1 guy he would have easily been a top 5 RB. He does look slimmer which I'm sure would only improve his game. He's probably my favorite Panther back in team history now.

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4 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

The Panthers have enough talent on offense for there to be absolutely zero excuses this year.

 We always really have. Besides the Oline, I'll give that one a pass. The problems were never weapons despite Cam fanboys ranting that will likely have yet another excuse with another down year. There are 4 points for offensive failure before we get to weapons.

1. Shula - never used Cam correctly and did not design plays correctly.

2. Oline - Disaster

3. Injuries - Yea people will bring up going to the SB will TG as he #1 but our first round WR was injured. We also spent a high pick on Funchess. These are weapons that were added with a high cost.

4. Top defense/scheme  - means less playmakers. Until now this was the plan and usually is for most NFL teams. There are only a couple who neglect defensive to build an offense and not vice versa.

Stewart, healthy KB, Olsen and Cam (throw in a Shockey, or Tolbert in his prime) is plenty to do better than a losing season when you are a defensive minded team. That's two 1,000 receivers and a 1,000 yard back and an elite, top 5 QB. Please list teams who have that to work with. Again wrong scheme, wrong offensive coordinator and shitty oline is the issue.

A lack of weapons is really an excuse in the sense people use it around here. The lack of weapons comes in terms of our OC and dumbass scheme. The real issue the scheme we had, and the weapons we didn't have for a scheme Shula should have been implementing all along.

This year weapons were added but that's not why things should change or get better because it wasn't the issue. The weapons added were brought in to change up Shula's schemes and play calling. That is the change that will improve tge Panthers. It will be interesting if Shula really can evolve and adapt and the online can hold and if he can't and they don't I hope people can recognize that instead of yet another lack of weapons BS. Because we have always had plenty of weapons.

 

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1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Hopefully he helps us make a deep run in the playoffs. That seems a lot more important to me than if his Madden ratings goes up. Apparently our priorities are very different...

Bc we all know you can't want both things.

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41 minutes ago, Lumps said:

 We always really have. Besides the Oline, I'll give that one a pass. The problems were never weapons despite Cam fanboys ranting that will likely have yet another excuse with another down year. There are 4 points for offensive failure before we get to weapons.

1. Shula - never used Cam correctly and did not design plays correctly.

2. Oline - Disaster

3. Injuries - Yea people will bring up going to the SB will TG as he #1 but our first round WR was injured. We also spent a high pick on Funchess. These are weapons that were added with a high cost.

4. Top defense/scheme  - means less playmakers. Until now this was the plan and usually is for most NFL teams. There are only a couple who neglect defensive to build an offense and not vice versa.

Stewart, healthy KB, Olsen and Cam (throw in a Shockey, or Tolbert in his prime) is plenty to do better than a losing season when you are a defensive minded team. That's two 1,000 receivers and a 1,000 yard back and an elite, top 5 QB. Please list teams who have that to work with. Again wrong scheme, wrong offensive coordinator and shitty oline is the issue.

A lack of weapons is really an excuse in the sense people use it around here. The lack of weapons comes in terms of our OC and dumbass scheme. The real issue the scheme we had, and the weapons we didn't have for a scheme Shula should have been implementing all along.

This year weapons were added but that's not why things should change or get better because it wasn't the issue. The weapons added were brought in to change up Shula's schemes and play calling. That is the change that will improve tge Panthers. It will be interesting if Shula really can evolve and adapt and the online can hold and if he can't and they don't I hope people can recognize that instead of yet another lack of weapons BS. Because we have always had plenty of weapons.

 

That is ridiculous. Ignore that the general consensus in 2015 was that we had the worse group of wide receivers in the league bar none. Yet we lead the league in points.  Ignore that Shula built the offense around Cam and his strengths. Shula taught Cam everything  heknows about offense  Ignore that 13 out of the past 15 first 3 round drafts picks under Gettleman before this year were on defense not offense.

Truth is all those accomplishments on offense you noted were because of Cam and Shula maximizing what talent he has been given. When have we ever had a rookie receiver over 1000 yards before Shula. How many 1000 yard seasons did Olsen have before coming to Carolina and Shula's offense. Which coordinator in our history has ever had the number 1 offense in points scored which is the only stat that counts? The general consensus here and everywhere is that Cam has not had enough weapons around him. Shula critics like you seem to be the only one skewing the facts to fuel your criticisms.

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5 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

The Panthers have enough talent on offense for there to be absolutely zero excuses this year.

I think for the first time since Cam has been here you are right.  This is the only draft under Gettleman where he concentrated on offense instead of defense and spent money upgrading the line instead of counting on guys like Byron Bell, Chandler and Remmers to protect our greatest asset.

Still a little concerned about depth at some positions in the event of injuries but we will see how things develop. Hopefully we avoid multiple injuries to the same position like center last year.

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