Business or Family? The Path to a Successfully Ran Organization

[Daddy_Uncle]

After this shocking firing of Gettleman and the rumors about Davis and Olsen, I have to wonder how serious we are about being a successful franchise. 

After many years of Hurney treating players like family and dishing out ridiculous contracts to players that put us in cap hell for years, Gettleman was hired to fix the cap situation. 

He, in my opinion had done a great job of doing that. He looked at it as a business. When you are trying to field a successful team you have to remove personal emotional connections and avoid over paying players based on them. That sets you up for long term failure as we saw in the Hurney era. 

We love TD and Olsen and what they mean to the franchise. Both are Walter Peyton Man of the Year guys and nobody embodies "keep pounding" Like TD. He definitely will have a statue outside of the stadium with Sam Mills. 

At the end of the day, it's a business and you have to go about it that way. There are ways to part ways correctly if the players don't want to understand the business side of things. That seemed to be Gettleman's one down fall in these situations. He was extremely cold blooded about it, even though in my opinion he did the right thing in every situation. 

We can't go back to the Hurney way of doing things. That was the whole point of hiring Gettleman in the first place. His knowledge of the cap and how to manage it. 

Can't wait to find out the details on this firing. I need a press conference from Richardson. He has some explaining to do.  

[Krovvy]

The path to a successful franchise is basically just finding a good quarterback and coach.

[CamMoon]

A lot of this would be cleared up if the salary cap was higher, which it should be. I understand why Greg and TD would want extensions, but had they been fairly compensated earlier in their careers this wouldn't be an issue to begin with.  

[Jmac]

If your okay with losing, then keep the band together no matter if they are getting old and tired. You want to win....keep shuffling the deck and adding younger blood and talent. Looks like we like the first choice.

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[AceBoogie]

14 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

After this shocking firing of Gettleman and the rumors about Davis and Olsen, I have to wonder how serious we are about being a successful franchise. 

After many years of Hurney treating players like family and dishing out ridiculous contracts to players that put us in cap hell for years, Gettleman was hired to fix the cap situation. 

He, in my opinion had done a great job of doing that. He looked at it as a business. When you are trying to field a successful team you have to remove personal emotional connections and avoid over paying players based on them. That sets you up for long term failure as we saw in the Hurney era. 

We love TD and Olsen and what they mean to the franchise. Both are Walter Peyton Man of the Year guys and nobody embodies "keep pounding" Like TD. He definitely will have a statue outside of the stadium with Sam Mills. 

At the end of the day, it's a business and you have to go about it that way. There are ways to part ways correctly if the players don't want to understand the business side of things. That seemed to be Gettleman's one down fall in these situations. He was extremely cold blooded about it, even though in my opinion he did the right thing in every situation. 

We can't go back to the Hurney way of doing things. That was the whole point of hiring Gettleman in the first place. His knowledge of the cap and how to manage it. 

Can't wait to find out the details on this firing. I need a press conference from Richardson. He has some explaining to do.  

Hell Gettleman has been had explaining to do hence his firing. 

[Delhommey]

1 minute ago, CamMoon said:

A lot of this would be cleared up if the salary cap was higher, which it should be. I understand why Greg and TD would want extensions, but had they been fairly compensated earlier in their careers this wouldn't be an issue to begin with.  

Now who was that NFC South owner who spearheaded the lockout that made sure the salary cap was tighter....

[AceBoogie]

7 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

I don't know what to say. This was so short sighted. To be frank, the players aren't supposed to like their boss the same way sometimes kids hate their parents. GMs aren't supposed to be there to be their friends.

Bruh you can't have current and former players feuding with the current GM, it's just not good for business. Why y'all put him on a pedestal. If Steve was let go for his attitude why should Gettleman be any different? He hasn't done a damn thing but add inconsistent pieces around a core created by someone else. 

[CamMoon]

2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Bruh you can't have current and former players feuding with the current GM, it's just not good for business. Why y'all put him on a pedestal. If Steve was let go for his attitude why should Gettleman be any different? He hasn't done a damn thing but add inconsistent pieces around a core created by someone else. 

You don't win in the NFL with "core". You win with 5th and 6th round picks, and guys off of the streets. You can say whatever you'd like about DG, but he was a fantastic talent elevator, and got out out of cap hell, (due to in large part JR giving an over the hill Jake Delhomme 40 million dollars). To say he did nothing to build this team is just stupid and dishonest.

[top dawg]

Well, J-Rich did fire his sons, so I don't know what that does or doesn't say for family or business. Some of the most successful businesses in the world are owned by families, so there's no way someone is telling me that family and business can't work. It's ideal if you ask me. 

 

[PantherPhann89]

I say a sweet combination of both without a doubt who the boss is. There's nothing wrong with making players feel like family as long as you run the business like a business!

[Jmac]

Bruh you can't have current and former players feuding with the current GM, it's just not good for business. Why y'all put him on a pedestal. If Steve was let go for his attitude why should Gettleman be any different? He hasn't done a damn thing but add inconsistent pieces around a core created by someone else. 

Two championships, one SB appearance and won twice as many games as they lost under his watch. Not to shabby at all. Would you rather be back in the ten years prior to his hiring?

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[pantherphan96]

For too many years JR has been too close to the players and they are emboldened by this relationship to challenge the front office. Not a good dynamic and one that will be a challenge for the new GM. How are you gonna win a contract extension talk when the players can go over your head to the owner?

[top dawg]

I absolutely hate the way Smitty was treated, but I understood the reasoning behind letting him go (though I didn't necessarily agree with it). I sometimes wonder whether we'd be Super Bowl champions today had we kept him. Honestly, I think Gettleman crapped out all the way around on that one. In retrospect, it turns out that that was the beginning of the end of his reign. Now that's irony at it's best (or worst).

[PhillyB]

23 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

I run businesses, I run a fairly successful businesses. I don't hire friends, I don't hire family. I hire people who have the skillset to get the task I envision accomplished, I give them the tools they need then I step back and let them do their thing without meddling, they report to me, I track metrics on progress.

 

Dave Gettleman came into a cap disaster, moved the team from that, had to let a few people walk/retire but always had the outlook of the Carolina Panthers. He took a sputtering franchise and ran it like a fortune 500, we are now back to running the team like a Mom & Pop operator

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