some dude is writing a bunch of words about the panthers on the internet

[Saca312]

9 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

I can't be unbiased and have an unbiased opinion?  

You can have your own opinion. Just as I can say your opinion is completely wrong and back it up with evidence, which you seem to never do with your own hot takes.

 

[vorbis]

20 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Bahahahahahaha. Andy Benoit smart football guy in the same sentence?

He's about as big of a joke as one can get among everyone. 

like I said, you'll disagree with him and he has big blind spots but to deny that he knows a lot is really dumb and asinine.

and lots of people listen to him.

it's more than worth it to read his stuff about NFC south rivals, to give one example. 

[top dawg]

This guy isn't all bad, but he just takes it a little too far. Greg Cosell is a little more diplomatic in that he doesn't outright say that Cam can't change, just that he probably won't. Also, Cosell doesn't say that Cam is below average without the running. I believe that's anyone's guess. 

The problem with some Huddlers is that they aren't the most objective as it pertains to Cam, but that's to be expected I suppose.

[top dawg]

I'm holding out hope that Cam can get with the program. He's never really had the protection or the weapons that it takes to actually form a final opinion as to whether he can be consistently effective without running. Perhaps this is the year. Even still, if he can run more strategically and less out of necessity, then I'm all for it, as it makes him extremely dangerous. He just has to decide to limit the hits.

[nctarheel0619]

23 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

You can have your own opinion. Just as I can say your opinion is completely wrong and back it up with evidence, which you seem to never do with your own hot takes.

 

I could just post last years stats and show you he's below average.  But, you'll just change the narrative and give excuses why he sucked.  Then post a Fahey article.  Which proves jack s hit.  So.............

[Woodie]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I'm holding out hope that Cam can get with the program. He's never really had the protection or the weapons that it takes to actually form a final opinion as to whether he can be consistently effective without running. Perhaps this is the year. Even still, if he can run more strategically and less out of necessity, then I'm all for it, as it makes him extremely dangerous. He just has to decide to limit the hits.

The fact that Cam lobbied for CMC is a huge indicator that he is definitely with the program, IMO.  I think he is getting tired of getting beat up, and wants to take some of the pressure off him. 

But I do believe that many are not understanding what the evolution to his game will actually be.  He is, and will always be a runner.  He's said it himself, that's what separates him from the pack.  I just think now he'll be more judicious about how and when he runs, and I'm sure there will be less designed runs...they'll still be part of the offense, just not as often.  I also think you'll see him slide more often...that extra yard or two is taking too much of a toll on his body.   

[electro's horse]

11 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

I could just post last years stats and show you he's below average.  But, you'll just change the narrative and give excuses why he sucked.  Then post a Fahey article.  Which proves jack s hit.  So.............

fahey had a recent article ranking QBs with his own new metric and placed cam in the bottom half

its probably why saca didn't post ten threads a day for the past little while. 

[electro's horse]

5 minutes ago, Woodie said:

The fact that Cam lobbied for CMC is a huge indicator that he is definitely with the program, IMO. 

I really wouldn't believe that story if I were you.

[AceMan]

48 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

So, and that's still Top 10 in this NFL?  I can't be unbiased and have an unbiased opinion?  I guess I need to be delusional like yourself.  If we have Aaron Rodgers at QB, we win two-three Super Bowls instead of zero.  

Both below average but both are top 10 (out of 32 starting QBs) .

and

Aaron Rodgers would have two/three rings  if he was the Panthers QB instead (He only has one now)

Please explain.

[nctarheel0619]

13 minutes ago, AceMan said:

Both below average but both are top 10 (out of 32 starting QBs) .

and

Aaron Rodgers would have two/three rings  if he was the Panthers QB instead (He only has one now)

Please explain.

Because Aaron Rodgers is that great.  Also, Drew Brees would have two-three rings, so would Brady, etc.  It was just a metaphor.  Basically a Top 5 QB would have two-three SB's with the defense and weapons we've had.  

[Woodie]

22 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I really wouldn't believe that story if I were you.

Of course you wouldn't!

[nctarheel0619]

2 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

this one?

http://presnapreads.com/2017/08/01/effective-completion-percentage/

he says in the article it doesn't account for drops and i don't see how it could account for receiver separation. fahey loves cam from what ive seen. his whole thing is "some quarterbacks are great but in bad systems and some are terrible but in extremely complimentary systems" and really which sounds more like cam to you?

And to be fair, that's on Rivera and the damn Panthers for not putting a good system around Cam.  That's why I can't stand those ass clowns.  

[PntherPryd]

https://www.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/02/mmqb-andy-benoit-admits-wrong-about-cam-newton-super-bowl-50

 

he was right, he was wrong, he was right.

Hot Take,

Benoit is a Tool

[CRA]

You going to expect a lion not to roar