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Official Buffalo Bills at Carolina Panthers Gameday Thread


Jeremy Igo

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Just now, Fox007 said:

It's so much more obvious if you watch Brady and Brees and even Manning before he was neck man. You have to step UP into the pocket. I can't remember if Cam has ever thrown a pass near the LOS from going up the middle...it's always to the outside.

You see Brady and Brees do it all the time.

I've said it all along and for some reason too many can't see that. My entire family has been huge Cam fans from day one while I was critical of his play. Finally 6 years later they are all admitting what I have said all along. Cam will never be an elite QB, a great athlete does not equal a great QB.  

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5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Serious question, who gets the blame for the burned time outs, delay of game, last second snaps, etc.  Shula, Dorsey, Cam?  I noticed we burned both time outs after the long Cam runs.  Hard to tell on tv, but is he too nonchalant getting back to the huddle?  What's the deal?

With all the feels I have right now...I'm blamimg Shula for everything...if he were my son I'd cut him completely out of my will

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3 minutes ago, Yaboychris28 said:

Thought McCaffery was going to have a big impact in this game. He still might, but hes been underwhelming so far. He gone down too easy and has missed a few blocking reads on his runs that should have been bounces, instead he ran toward the incoming defense

On the run plays I witnessed, there literally was no holes, just a wall of defenders and the defense has keyed on him again just like last week.   What more can he do?

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2 minutes ago, crowntownpanther said:

I think the offense has actually looked pretty good.  The red zone is the only are we have struggled, which unfortunately is the worst place to stall out.  We look better than last week and I think we will continue to iron things out.  Missing Greg is apparent too.

So glad we signed a quality backup for Greg this off season! Oh wait..

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