We were over the 2018 salary cap prior to the trade

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not sure if you were around for Hurney's previous tenure, but lemme give you a quick tip. 

Hurney doesn't plan for future salary cap numbers. He never has, and this is well known. 

Hurney makes moves year by year on the fly. It's one of the reasons we wound up in cap hell before. 

And no, there's no evidence that's changed. 

 

It’s ok though. I’m sure JR didn’t say get rid of KB to bring back my golden boy...

[Chairman Wow]

Anyone who believes that Beane and Hurney had not discussed a Benjamin trade long before the "magic" final phone call are delusional.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Chairman Wow said:

Anyone who believes that Beane and Hurney had not discussed a Benjamin trade long before the "magic" final phone call are delusional.

Once the trade is done, there's no benefit to hiding any of the details that led up to it. 

If Beane said he initiated the call the day before, there's zero reason not to believe him. 

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, Chairman Wow said:

Anyone who believes that Beane and Hurney had not discussed a Benjamin trade long before the "magic" final phone call are delusional.

It’s as if everyone just turned subconsciously into complete idiots... 

[panther4life]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not sure if you were around for Hurney's previous tenure, but lemme give you a quick tip. 

Hurney doesn't plan for future salary cap numbers. He never has, and this is well known. 

Hurney makes moves year by year on the fly. It's one of the reasons we wound up in cap hell before. 

And no, there's no evidence that's changed. 

 

I've been around since the beginning. I'm well aware of all of his past mistakes. Hopefully he's learned from them, after all that's our best hope since we know he'll be managing the cap and draft next year. 

 

[Frank Hollywood]

We have 4.5 mil from this year to roll over and 7.5 mil for next year.

Matt Kalil, Ryan Kalil, Adams, Stewart and others would save a ton of money each if they were to be cut. Expect a few of them to be gone. 

[Chairman Wow]

Beane and Hurney talk regularly, as is well known. They are friends. It stretches credulity to the limit to suppose Beane simply dreamed up the idea of the Benjamin trade a few minutes before the trade deadline and had not mentioned it to Hurney at some point previously. 

This is all PR.

Hurney was shopping Benjamin. Beane is protecting his ability to make back-channel deals with other GM's.

 

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, panther4life said:

I've been around since the beginning. I'm well aware of all of his past mistakes. Hopefully he's learned from them, after all that's our best hope since we know he'll be managing the cap and draft next year. 

 

Do you really see any evidence of change? 

[beastson]

16 minutes ago, Frank Hollywood said:

We have 4.5 mil from this year to roll over and 7.5 mil for next year.

Matt Kalil, Ryan Kalil, Adams, Stewart and others would save a ton of money each if they were to be cut. Expect a few of them to be gone. 

I hope Hurney is up to the task of making tough decisions. But what good is having money, if you're not willing to spend on adequate replacements?

[top dawg]

No matter if it was the Bills' idea or not,  Marty saw the writing on the wall and made the call.  Business is business.  It may ultimately  turn out to be a shrewd move. 

[LinvilleGorge]

39 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Than why are we already back in cap hell? 

We're not... as long as JR allows Kalil to he cut in the offseason. 

 

[*FreeFua*]

28 minutes ago, Frank Hollywood said:

We have 4.5 mil from this year to roll over and 7.5 mil for next year.

Matt Kalil, Ryan Kalil, Adams, Stewart and others would save a ton of money each if they were to be cut. Expect a few of them to be gone. 

We’d save 1 mill by designating Matt as a post June 1st cut next season.

That number jumps up to 8 the year after and 11 then 11.5 the following two as long as he’s a post June 1st cut.

https://overthecap.com/player/matt-kalil/1793/

unless I’m missing something here

 

[My Goodness My Guinness]

52 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Cutting Ryan Kalil will save us another 8 I believe but you know, the whole loyalty thing may cost us here.

 

Not sure if you are serious, but I actually think Ryan should retire. Neck injuries are nothing to play with. Larsen has done a reasonable job filling in.

[LordOfDaWingz]

We need to cut or restructure Ryan and Stew contracts this offseason too. We'll see if this organization is about winning or babying current players.