Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

We were over the 2018 salary cap prior to the trade


panther4life

Recommended Posts

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The theory of this being a factor only works if the trade was planned and initiated by us. 

It wasn't. 

If the Bills hadn't called us, Benjamin would still be here. 

That does not mean that it was not one of the things that factored into the final decision. We just do not know.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Do you really think the FO will have the guts make the cuts you're advocating? With the possible exception of Colin Jones, all of the guys you cited are "Hurney's guys" and have been rewarded by him in the past with large extensions during his previous GM stint.

I was surprised to see that Thomas Davis has a $10 million dollar cap hit for next year. I would love to see him finish his career here. If we could part ways with, or significantly reduce the salary of, the guys you cited above we should be able to absorb that for 1 more season. But man, 10 mil for a 35 year old LB is pretty steep.

I know these are Hurney guys and all, but Ryan Kalil can't get on the field and Stewie might have lost a step.  I love CJ, but he's just not productive.  We've got guys waiting in the wings (Larsen, CAP, Hall) plus 4 picks in the first 3 rounds.  I'd rather re-sign Stah than watch Ryan Kalil stand on the sideline like a damn statue each week. 

I'm not advocating cutting TD despite the obvious overpay.  Just wish we hadn't done the extension to begin with.  We could have waited until the end of the season, then offer him a contract, but you know, hurt feelings/disrespect.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

That was not your earlier argument.  I am sure he did not discuss everything there.. Just saying it could have been a consideration...not the main one.

Unless Hurney is a complete buffoon, he would definitely consider the ramifications on the cap.  But to say as much might send a negative signal to the team.  "Its a business" doesn't usually sit well with players.  No reason to admit it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

Keep believing that.

Both Marty Hurney and Brandon Beane have confirmed the details around how this trade happened, and their stories match up.  

You can build a tinfoil hat theory if you want, but to do so you have to contradict the statements of the two principal characters, neither of whom has any reason to lie about it.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • and they don’t get paid and teams don’t keep playing them 
    • Then if he needs time to grow up and he is going to sign an extension in needs to be a 3 year, 20m AAV. He doesn't deserve to get paid like a top 10 QB right now because he's not. Daniel Jones is getting 14m and is playing top notch football.  He may have had some better games, but his mechanics and footwork are still terrible when he feels any pressure, real or not. When he feels good, he steps into his throws like he should. When he doesn't, it's that body squared up or jumping arm toss or tip toe lob. His fumbling is a huge problem. He cant run QB sneaks. He cant really play from under center because his drop backs are terrible and he needs to be far back to get enough gapping to see the field. That's not top 10 QB contract worthy.  And let's not pretend that Bryce is some victim in all of this. Remember him packing on 20 lbs before the combine for the weigh in and walking around in a hoodie the entire time or practicing that S2 test that no one has mentioned before or since so he'd have better results, or riding that hype train like the wheels weren't ever going to fall off. Stroud got roasted and torn apart because of a "leaked" S2 result. He was being portrayed as an idiot while Bryce was being portrayed as a savant. All Stroud ever said was watch me play football. He proved his point.  Bryce did everything he could to make himself the number 1 overall pick and when that happens, guess where you're going? To a bad team, likely with a new coach and it's probably going to be full of dysfunction especially if the owner is Dave Tepper. But the real dysfunction came because Bryce wasn't Reich's choice for QB. He wanted Stroud because Stroud fit the type of offense he ran better than Bryce ever could. That's why he lost interest as soon as he was drafted. He was forced to play Bryce when it was obvious he wasn't ready to show off Tepper's shiny new draft pick. No HC is going to come to a team when he gets no choice over who he has as a QB to build around and he has to reinvent the wheel when the easiest thing to do was just buy the wheel that fit to begin with. Tepper lied to Reich all the way up until draft day, then he made that pick. Then Reich checked out, and i don't blame him one bit. And I'll be clear, I didn't want Reich. I wanted Steichen because of what he's doing in Indy or Ryans because I thought he would make one hell of a leader and HC.  Reich was a HC with no control over his own team. I put the majority of what's gone wrong involving Bryce on Tepper. The trade gave up too much in picks and DJ to build around him, we had a horrid GM who couldn't draft or build a roster, a QB forced to play before he's ready, an owner that thinks he knows more than football people.    There's a lot of moving pieces in all of this, but we cant pay Bryce 50m AAV at the end of this season while he figures it out, and the 5th year doesnt make sense either if we're a run heavy offense with Bryce as game manager. You dont need a 30m, 5th year option QB for that. If he's not there developmentally, he's not there.  Unfortunately, there isnt time to just calm down. He plays like a game manager this year and we have to move on. You dont give game managers huge contracts behind the highest paid oline in football, especially when you need to sign your LT. Any journeyman can give us Bryce level results for 15m less per year. Just the way it is. If there was more time, maybe. Unfortunately there isn't. Just the way it is. 
    • We’ve had opportunities to take 2 of the top 5 Cs in the game and instead we took TMJ and Johnathan Brooks. Our drafts since 2017 have been 1 player per draft and then huge misses on lots of really good NFL players (who the huddle have talk about in the draft threads). It’s been mentioned here so many times to draft more OL once you get to the 2nd and beyond since C/G talent is top tier in day 2 and lots of surprise day 3 guys. Taking Brooks over Frazier just looks worse and worse as our OL helps Chuba and Rico look great and Frazier would be a large improvement over Mays.
×
×
  • Create New...