Internal investigation equals cover up?

[t96]

44 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

In a lot of cases, generally on football issues,

But this is a legal issue.  That's Florio's strong suit.

He was 100% sure Brady would never serve that suspension.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, unicar15 said:

Uncovering misconduct after a cover up would be much worse than just doing an investigation and coming out with it. More than likely it won’t be a “cover up.” It’ll be a settlement essentially acknowledging wrong-doing without a huge media firestorm bc the NFL is leaking info week after week. 

Two or three years ago, I'd probably have agreed.

In today's climate, though?

 

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

He was 100% sure Brady would never serve that suspension.

So were a lot of other legal guys.

[t96]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Does it matter?

Granted, everybody wants to know and there's not much out there.  But what we do know for now is that whatever it was is serious enough to warrant an investigation and lawyers being brought in.

That tells me enough to know somebody could be in deep fecal matter.

Seems more to me like a civil matter, so it may lighten JR's pockets a bit but honestly who cares about that. And I doubt the league would even try to force JR out, let alone be successful doing it. NBA and Sterling is a lot different than the NFL.

[Khyber53]

It's not a cover up. A good company always investigates allegations against its employees internally. As far as I can tell, there have been no criminal complaints leveled against JR as of yet, just a complaint in the company like you would make to HR if it happened to you in your workplace.

There might be some smoke here, but there are a lot of folks fanning it hoping to see flames. Some folks can't help but be part of the mob, rather than rationally wait to find out what the facts are and then react.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

It's not a cover up. A good company always investigates allegations against its employees internally. As far as I can tell, there have been no criminal complaints leveled against JR as of yet, just a complaint in the company like you would make to HR if it happened to you in your workplace.

There might be some smoke here, but there are a lot of folks fanning it hoping to see flames. Some folks can't help but be part of the mob, rather than rationally wait to find out what the facts are and then react.

I say "cover up" not in the sense that they can make it go away (obviously they can't) but more in the vein of trying to choose the outcome they want.

The team does its own investigation, decides on its own punishment, then smiles at the NFL and says "See, we took care of the whole thing. No need for you to look into it or do anything else."

It's about control.

[GRWatcher]

Goodell loves Richardson and vice versa. BFF's. There will be very little said by the NFL and they won't get involved until the Panthers' investigation is done because of that. As for forced to 'sell' the team, I don't think so. But he could be forced to step down and sell part of his holdings so he's no longer majority owner. Here's a chart of all the entities involved with the Panthers, notice "Jerome J. Richardson" all over everything. This has happened lately, see Harvey Weinstein.

https://deadspin.com/5989285/carolina-panthers-organizational-chart-and-entity-listing

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hate to say it, but it actually does make some sense when you think about it.

Florio could tell me that John Hancock had the largest signature on the Declaration of Independence and I wouldn't believe him.

[bigdog10]

“After concluding the internal investigation it was determined that the allegations levied against Mr. Richardson were erroneous and false.”

-my expectation of the statement from the panthers. 

As that’s taking place, I’d imagine someone or some group of someone’s will be cashing a seven digit check. 

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Florio could tell me that John Hancock had the largest signature on the Declaration of Independence and I wouldn't believe him.

Understood, but this is actually pretty logical when you think about it.

[csx]

1 hour ago, TPanther920 said:

At "fault" for what? No one has any idea what this is all about.

Just let them run with it. Nothing could make these drama boys happier.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, csx said:

Just let them run with it. Nothing could makes these drama boys happier.

Nothing about this makes me happy.  Nor should it make anyone happy.

We're not talking about football here.  This looks to be way bigger than that.

[GRWatcher]

Quote

The team did not give any details about the allegations. The Panthers did raise eyebrows around the NFL world when the statement was released at the end of the workday on Friday and they announced that one of their own is leading the investigation.

This is apparently not sitting well with other teams. NFL insider Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report reported that other teams are questioning the investigation and one opposing general manager called it a flat-out "scam."

"There are more than a few teams wondering why the Panthers are allowed to investigate themselves," Freeman wrote on Twitter. "One GM called it a 'total scam.'"

http://www.businessinsider.com/carolina-panthers-investigation-owner-jerry-richardson-2017-12

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, GRWatcher said:

http://www.businessinsider.com/carolina-panthers-investigation-owner-jerry-richardson-2017-12

Yep.

And if it were another team doing this, that's exactly what we'd be saying too.

[Shocker]

Not sure it makes any sense debating this when we dont know wtf he did.  The non discolsure pizzes me off to be honest.