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If you’re a GM do you hire Steve Wilks


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There's more to being a head coach than being a great coordinator amd being a great coordinator is no guarantee of being a great head coach. Not sure if Wilks has what it takes to be a head coach or not but as a DC Sean Payton and Drew Brees pretty much had their way with him three times this year.

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Yes, I do.

Every head coach in the league has games they wish they could leave off their resume'.  You judge based on body of work and whether the game plan failed or the players did.

If you had to have a perfect record as a coordinator to make head coach, nobody would get hired.

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They held the Saints to under 50 yards rushing after their “record numbers”, 3 and outs and stopped them for the most part.

keep in mind he has no secondary. We have a good front 7 but our 2013 secondary were WAY better than this group and all we did was talk about how bad they were, that our kickass front 7 did it all.

i think Wilks did a pretty damn good job with what he has. 

Imagine we draft Claiborne(I like CMac, not a slight on him) and had an upgrade at safety for Wilks to use?

anyway, who knows what kind of Head coach he will be, but I think he’s a good DC.

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3 minutes ago, JARROD said:

They held the Saints to under 50 yards rushing after their “record numbers”, 3 and outs and stopped them for the most part.

keep in mind he has no secondary. We have a good front 7 but our 2013 secondary were WAY better than this group and all we did was talk about how bad they were, that our kickass front 7 did it all.

i think Wilks did a pretty damn good job with what he has. 

Imagine we draft Claiborne(I like CMac, not a slight on him) and had an upgrade at safety for Wilks to use?

anyway, who knows what kind of Head coach he will be, but I think he’s a good DC.

He also had input on personnel and who has drafted

he couldn't stop Bree's today or Ryan last week. Sorry we can do better 

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46 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

He also had input on personnel and who has drafted

he couldn't stop Bree's today or Ryan last week. Sorry we can do better 

We had 3 choices in the 1st two rounds last year. All 3 were offensive players (Cmac, Samuels, and Moton). We chose a HB, a wr, and an OT. No defensive help can be found there.

In the 3rd round we chose D. Hall, a DE out of Texas A&M. I don’t recall hearing his name called one time this season. I think he was inactive for every game. He was a defensive selection but he didn’t contribute at all this season because he was mostly inactive.

We had no 4th round selection because we gave  it away to trade up and take Hall in the 3rd round.

We took Corn Elder (cb) out of Miami in the 5th. He was hurt in training camp and didn’t play a game this season. Once again, a defensive selection who didn’t contribute anything to our defense because he didn’t see the field.

We choose Armah (FB) in the 6th round.

We took a FG kicker who isn’t even on the team anymore in the 7th round.

How can anyone possibly think our first year DC had significant input on this year’s draft class? We drafted 7 players. Only 2 were defensive selections and neither player saw any significant playing time this year. I think Wilks needs to show some improvement next year, but He didn’t have a lot to work with on the back end this season. It’s too early to write him off after one season on the job.

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1 hour ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

wilks defensive strategy. blitz on every play leaving one on one match ups on the outside against one of the most accurate passers in NFL history and hope for the best. 

Which is basically what the Steelers have been doing for decades.

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I liked our defense. I think Wilks did what he had to with helping the weakest secondary we’ve ever had with using his front 7.  2013 basically but with a much worst secondary. 

With all things considered I think they did good. 

Had our scrub playmakers on offense made the 2 touchdown catches, we would be saying Wilks did great.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yes, I do.

Every head coach in the league has games they wish they could leave off their resume'.  You judge based on body of work and whether the game plan failed or the players did.

If you had to have a perfect record as a coordinator to make head coach, nobody would get hired.

Honestly though, what does Wilks have on his resume that's good? Blitzing half the time and still not getting pressure? Allowing tons of long plays all year long and having a defense that severely underperformed considering the talent level of the team? Not making adjustments in-game? He's had one year as a coordinator and it was not good. Wilks makes himself look very good, but frankly the production isn't there on D. Bradberry regressing is a HUGE red flag for him as a coach, whether he's DB coach or D-coordinator, still on him.

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