With Worley done, the 2016 draft looks like one of our worst ever

[Chosen Newton]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Every draft could always have been better given the benefit of hindsight.

Didnt need hindsight. There were too many quality running backs that draft. We could have waited 2 rounds and still gotten similar backs to CMac with not much dropoff in value. If there are a lot of good players at a certain position, you can wait to grab them....cuz u know, why spend a first rounder on a player when u can get a similar one in a later round? Not an anamoly either, many starting runningbacks are 2nd or 3rd rounders. Running back is the easiest position to play. It was common sense to avoid him. 

[NCBlu]

To the people still wondering about how you go from SB to not making the playoffs, did you miss the NFL letting DEF players tee off on Cams head all season? Or the fact Panthers had Denver beat if Gono makes a easy FG, also TB game lost on a turnover in endzone. Still dont know how they lost to KC after being up so late. Carolina 6-10 that year 9-7 made the playoffs. Could have been 9-7 or better easy that year.   Also lost to TB by 1 week 17.                                      

To the OP yea Cam draft was wore you shold get the 1st pick righ but all other round picks where high in there rounds also not the 31st pick of there round.

[KDawg004]

2 hours ago, Chosen Newton said:

2017s draft could have been much better also. I said it then and I'll say it now, there was no need to draft CMac with our top 10 pick. Running backs have been a deep class for a couple years now and was last year also. More so, running back is the easiest position to play. Look at the success at mid round running backs. Hunt, Kamara, Cook, D.Murray, J.Howard, L.Mccoy, Lev Bell to name a few. 

We could have ended up with marshon lattimore in the 1st and a dalvin cook in the second. 

This is the exact draft I wanted. And though you have good reasoning, I’m not even sure we’re a playoff team without CMC. I really think he was a Richardson pick. He screams the exact player Richardson wants for this franchise. What’s done is done. CMC was overdrafted but he’s a great little player.

[Carl Spackler]

4 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Yes, it was a very Hurneyesque draft. The Josh Norman debacle really threw a wrench in the works. Gettleman's worst mistake as it made everything suck. 

Butler is a few Pro Bowls away from this being a Hurney draft

[beastson]

I get pissed every time it crosses ,y ,omd.

[X-Clown]

16 hours ago, TheRed said:

I haven't stated it was our worst draft ever.

 

Well other people have in this thread, including the OP and that's what the topic is about. Perhaps this thread was another thinly veiled excuse to get into another pissing match about Hurney vs. Gettleman, but if it wasn't, you decided to turn it into that.

16 hours ago, TheRed said:

But it was undoubtedly a very poor draft that coincided with other offseason failures which directly led to us following up a Super Bowl appearance with only 6 wins. We then followed that up by letting our established speed threat walk to New Orleans and torch us while they went on to beat us 3 times and take over the division. That should not happen under the watchful eye of someone who is supposed to be the executive of the year. The only reason we didn't end up once again staring back to back losing seasons right in the face was thanks to heroics by none other than Cam Newton.

Last time I checked, Gettleman didn't win executive of the year in either of the last 2 years, so I'm not seeing the relevance to this topic. Is it his worst draft of his tenure?  More than likely. Is it the worst in team history? Not even close. 

[Manther]

18 hours ago, KDawg004 said:

This is the exact draft I wanted. And though you have good reasoning, I’m not even sure we’re a playoff team without CMC. I really think he was a Richardson pick. He screams the exact player Richardson wants for this franchise. What’s done is done. CMC was overdrafted but he’s a great little player.

We are a better team with CMC.  As for others asking for Lattimore, we drafted 2 CBs the year before and we didn't know how far they would develop.  If Worely hadn't turned to total crap we wouldn't be subbing Seymour, moving Bradberry around to follow the best receiver, and put so much pressure on the safeties.  He was even beat on his interception...if the throw wouldn't have been short, he would have been burned bad.  

Our defense was instantly better the moment we let him go, nearly regardless of who we replaced him with.

I think our secondary is serviceable now, even with Searcy at safety.  Though I'd be happy with good drafted safety.  My concern on defense is DE.

Offense will step up with Norv.  I expect CMac to put together another 1k+ all purpose yards again next year.  Its so hard to tell because it was coached just sooo bad.   Our QB and TE are the best in the league.  Most of the line is serviceable....Matt Kalil better do better this year or I think he'll be gone.  We traded our best receiver away and Funchess really did appear to step up.  Torrey Smith, Jarius Wright, and Byrd have all shown they can perform.  Curtis Sammuel has shown flashes...we'll see.  

So on O we need a TE,  insurance at LT, probably another RB.  I'd be surprised if we drafted a WR.  So my guess based on need: TE, OL(probably tackle), DE, RB.

   

[bewonee]

On 4/17/2018 at 1:28 PM, Paintballr said:

The Cam draft was probably the worst. At least this draft we have a player who is a starter and a backup.

Outside of Cam who was the #1 pick everyone on that draft sucked and was out of the league by year 3-4. That was a hurney draft for those wondering. 

Cam Newton 

Terrell McClain 

Sione Fua 

Brandon Hogan 

Kealoha Pillares 

Lawrence Wilson 

Zachary Williams 

Lee Ziemba 

mcclain is a starter for the redskins

[Manther]

On 4/17/2018 at 11:13 AM, TheRed said:

First team in NFL history to go 15-1 and then miss the playoffs entirely the next season.

Uhh, regular season record alone does not dictate pick order.  Some of those 15-1 teams didn't make it to the Superbowl.    There have been  a dozen or more Super Bowl teams that didn't make the playoffs the following season. 

I agree Gettleman fumbled the 2016 draft.  I think Oher's and Cam's injuries (concussion and shoulder), decimation of the secondary  and Shula being clueless were much larger contributors.

[Paintballr]

On 4/18/2018 at 2:43 PM, bewonee said:

mcclain is a starter for the redskins

his career as a redskin 

so currently 6 years later the only one still around is Cam

[davos]

On 4/17/2018 at 4:09 AM, KillerKat said:

I was saying this a couple years ago. DG went on an ego trip after our Super Bowl. You can't cut one of your superstars, have one of the worst drafts in franchise history, then try going the cheap route yet again to fill your holes and also not improving hardly anything after a Super Bowl year and then expect teams not to adjust to you when you have that huge target on your back. DG royally fuged us that year.

I enjoyed the guy as GM but this is true as hell.  I've never felt more, "we really didn't improve, and who the f*ck are these guys" so close to the draft ending than then.  It's true, draft classes can't be perfect, but man, you f*ck yourself sometimes if you don't get what you just downright need.  

People harp on the DT Round 1 but we also didn't need to triple down at all for that class, ESPECIALLY after going luxury with Vern.  Gettleman showed no awareness that draft when we clearly needed a weapon, CB (or 2), S, and OLs.  Coming off a SB appearance, we needed to continue building but they were thinking we were a patch up away by fixing the secondary.  We shot it too soon.  

I like Gettleman but I am more comfortable with his exit these days, however, I can never embrace Hurney.  

 

[bewonee]

8 hours ago, stbugs said:

No, he isn't. First, he started only 2 games for the Redskins and second, he was released today.

bah gawd it was posted a while back when he was still on the skins pls stop bully

[rmoneyg35]

First off your not going to have a great draft every year. You will miss some years.

 

I don’t think you can judge Butler yet. He’s still young and was behind two great defensive linemen. With the signing of Poe I believe we still may not get to see Butlers potential this season.

[bewonee]

7 hours ago, stbugs said:

Lol. Didn’t realize you posted it a couple weeks ago. It was more ironic that I was posting just as he was released. That and he wasn’t really a starter. 

Allen was injured so not technically i guess but starting