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Again, from Grill Bill (Link)

Voth started out by saying that runningback is a position that still needs to be addressed, which led to this:

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Website submission from Chris in Steamboat Springs, CO: Since the Panthers elected not to take a running back in the draft, do you see the team trying to sign a top-tier free agent like CJ Anderson or DeMarco Murray?

First, a point of clarification: They didn’t necessarily “elect” to leave the draft without a running back or interior lineman. They had a number of targets at both spots who either didn’t fall to them or would’ve cost too much to move up to get. Sure, the Panthers passed on a familiar name like Bo Scarbrough, but so did 30 other teams. And Dallas passed on the former Alabama back eight times before they finally took him off the board midway through the seventh round.

But I digress.

Between Anderson and Murray, the former makes more sense. Murray’s 3.6 yards per carry in Tennessee last season tied a career low, and he turned 30 in February. Anderson is just 27 and racked up 1,007 yards for the Broncos in 2017. The Panthers haven’t had a 1,000-yard rusher since DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart each broke 1K in 2009.

Good news for C J Anderson fans.

For safety fans though, maybe not.

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That date is actually May 8. Any signing after 4 p.m. next Tuesday doesn't count toward the comp pick formula.

I don’t think they’ll go safety shopping soon, but again, running back is certainly possible.

Another clarification: Because they were released from their respective teams, the Panthers could sign Murray or Anderson before May 8 without penalty. The backs they’d have to wait on are unrestricted free agents like Eddie Lacy, Alfred Morris and Orleans Darkwa. Those options aren’t all that interesting anyway.

So runningbacks yes, safeties no.  What about the receivers?

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It’s a bit too early for stuff like this, but I’ll bite.

Let’s assume these seven are the realistic options: Moore, Devin Funchess, Torrey Smith, Curtis Samuel, Damiere Byrd, Jarius Wright and Russell Shepard. You’d have to think Shepard is the odd man out unless they REALLY value his special teams ability.

I imagine they’ll keep six, but if they opt for just five (and if Samuel is healthy), the odd man out would be Byrd or Wright.

Jarius Wright not make the team?  That's the first time I've heard someone suggest that.

Voth also addresses the "drafting Alabama" question.

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No, but let’s play out the string just for fun.

In 24 drafts, the Panthers have picked only two players from Alabama: defensive end Kindal Moorehead (2003) and offensive lineman Evan Mathis (2005).

Of the nearly 50 former Crimson Tide currently in the NFL, none are on Carolina’s roster. The last Alabama product to play in Charlotte was wideout Kevin Norwood (one game in 2015).

The Panthers had obvious needs at running back and safety in this draft but passed on multiple opportunities to take Alabama guys like Scarbrough and safety Ronnie Harrison.

But ...

Few understand how close Dave Gettleman came to drafting Alabama tight end O.J. Howard last year, and if not for DJ Moore’s ability after the catch, Alabama wideout Calvin Ridley would’ve been this year’s first-round pick.

Sometimes things like what you’re asking about are just coincidence and not conspiracy.

That's interesting.

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Jaire Alexander wasn’t in the cards, but Donte Jackson could be a nice consolation prize.

Sprinters and DBs are some of the best talkers in sports and Jackson is both. Fingers crossed he’ll remain as comfortable in front of the media as he was during Saturday’s intro press conference.

But as I wrote when stumping for Alexander, this isn’t just me wanting someone to make the job more fun. I think the Panthers secondary desperately needs a guy who will spice things up back there.

 

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IMO, it's more likely that the panthers would cut Torrey Smith then Jarius Wright.  You can get some good cap savings by cutting Smith while not so much for Jarius.  Also, with how Norv has talked about Wright and visa versa, those 2 wanted this marriage to happen.  Lastly, I think the trade for Torrey was just Hurney flinging mud at the wall and seeing what stuck, in this case if Smith works out, great, if not, oh well.

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2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Byrd? At some point we must learn to move on. He's fast but has done little ever. No problem with him if we keep 6.

I say keep 6 but if 5, I would keep Byrd. He has developed and I shall save this for after the 53 is solidified.

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I like that he addressed the Alabama thing. I had a long post questioning that myself and others pointed out scheme and such but there is 2 sides to the ball and we ignore them on both sides. If I’m doing the picking I’m taking a good long scouting look at the teams that are consistently in the final 4 and competing for chips every year. The team that has landed the most 5 star recruits in modern history.

hell I would make 4 trips to Bama Ohio state and FSU before falling in love with terps. Not to say Moore wasn’t deserving of the pick he was... this is more about taking shots on guys after the 3rd round... my roster would be full of guys who were genetic freaks that never fully developed at say bama because they sat behind other 5 stars talents. Coach em up as they say and swing for the fences on 5 star busts like Scarborough and josh sweat.

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