REPORT: DJ Moore in trouble with the law

[Jon Snow]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

First off, sympathy to your friends and colleagues. I am assuming you work in road construction? Appreciate the efforts you guys are putting in making traffic patterns better.

Second, there was no crash, and there was no fatal accident that occurred. TBH the area of which he was speeding is only a "work zone" because of the work on the off ramp and lane expansion. He was speeding on 77, and considering from uptown to north lake its all work zone.

By law, this segment of 77 is labeled a work zone because of the highway maintenance.

Accosting DJ for speeding in a work zone is far different than the actual "work zone" of which he was speeding. 

The reason I say this, is because it needs to be clear that he was not going 113 mph in a residential work zone, or even a city work zone. He was on a highway with a lot of construction happening to the off ramps and lane expansion.

Again, he broke the law, he will be punished. However, to go to the extreme and cite that this kid risked lives of families just seems unnecessary and a bit egregious.

Just because no one was hurt that makes it ok?   A work zone is a work zone for a reason.  It's to protect the workers as well as the traveling public.  There is no grey area with safety.   You break the law you suffer the consequences. 

Maybe you should look up the statistics on work zone fatalities due to motorist stupidity and the consequences to those life's who are affected before you dismiss this so easily.  Try telling that to someone who lost a loved one because someone thought it's not a big deal.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

1 hour ago, Panthers8969 said:

Really that’s physics 101? News flash buddy it’s not. I can tell you’ve never taken a physics class in your life so stop bringing physics up. Go take a physics class and tell me at what point the professor says “ok class as you all know a car crash involving a car going 80mph has a 72% of resulting in a fatality, but a car going 110 has an 80% chance of resulting in a fatality.” Both crashes have a high chance of killing someone. Stop trying to patronize me

You're right, it's more like 90% chance of a fatality at 100+ mph. Source: engineer in crash safety, I am, young padawan. 

[TheCasillas]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Just because no one was hurt that makes it ok?   A work zone is a work zone for a reason.  It's to protect the workers as well as the traveling public.  There is no grey area with safety.   You break the law you suffer the consequences. 

Maybe you should look up the statistics on work zone fatalities due to motorist stupidity and the consequences to those life's who are affected before you dismiss this so easily.  Try telling that to someone who lost a loved one because someone thought it's not a big deal.

You can't tell a love one that because they are emotionally engaged. Not sure why I would purposely focus on doing that.

I looked it up, in 5 years there have been 4400 deaths in work zones (85% were the driver or passenger of the vehicle) not sure what you want to do with this information but there it is.

Technically there is a gray area, if you don't have an accident then its a non issue. That's basic principle.

Regardless to any of the above, my point is he did not endanger anyone and its a highway he travels daily. It's a safe assumption he knows that highway. Again, the entire route from uptown to north lake (where he lives) is a "work zone."

I travel that road daily as well, and there are segments that there isn't road construction but cones are out. No machinery, no trucks and no workers.

 

[Jon Snow]

So as long as no one gets hurts it's ok.  Got it.

It's this line of thinking that gets people killed.  

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

So as long as no one gets hurts it's ok.  Got it.

It's this line of thinking that gets people killed.  

disappointing if that is your takeaway from all of this. 

[Jon Snow]

6 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

disappointing if that is your takeaway from all of this. 

How else can I take it?  Your long winded justification of his actions doesn't change the fact that what he did was illegal and incredibly dangerous to himself and anyone else who may have been in that work zone with him. 

You cannot dismiss that as being young and mischievous.  It's wreckless endangerment and beyond stupid.  Just because you don't see anyone in the work zone doesn't give you a pass.

 Nearly every person that has killed someone in the work zone has said they never saw the person they struck.  Hell it wasn't long ago that some idiot was speeding in a work zone and drove trough the barrels 1500 feet away from a concrete operation and continued on until he struck the concrete truck crushing a worker and the truck operator killing both.  He claimed he never saw the truck or the workers.

So yeah, it's not a big deal.

[LinvilleGorge]

This thread has turned into pure comedy. All we know is that he was ticketed late at night for travelling 100+ mph on a section of highway classified as a work zone. That's it.

But we have people acting like we have video of him power braking and slaloming through a crowd of workers and construction trucks while pounding a bottle of Jack.

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[SmokinwithWilly]

9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

 

Regardless to any of the above, my point is he did not endanger anyone and its a highway he travels daily. It's a safe assumption he knows that highway. Again, the entire route from uptown to north lake (where he lives) is a "work zone."

I travel that road daily as well, and there are segments that there isn't road construction but cones are out. No machinery, no trucks and no workers.

 

That's not a fair statement. We don't know if someone was working a mile down from where he was pulled over. In a work zone you don't know where people are. Just because you can't see someone doesn't mean they are not there. Doing 113 mph endangers anyone on the road, especially in a work zone. I know there's stretches where you can't see things being done on a daily basis and it's annoying as hell. But IF he hits something in the road like uneven pavement or a broken piece of asphalt, and slightly wiggles that car, at that speed will he be able to recover? Maybe yes, maybe no.

Anyone working on the side of the road is basically defenseless. They have no car to shield them from anything that is flying. A wrecking car is 3000 lbs of shrapnel that could go anywhere. Maybe my view is skewed because I have been hit by a car in a work zone, though barely, it was enough to leave a bruise across my back. Just because he drives that section of road every day doesn't mean something didn't change in the time that he was in Buffalo. 

It was stupid. It was reckless. Just call it what it is. 

[TheCasillas]

41 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This thread has turned into pure comedy. All we know is that he was ticketed late at night for travelling 100+ mph on a section of highway classified as a work zone. That's it.

But we have people acting like we have video of him power braking and slaloming through a crowd of workers and construction trucks while pounding a bottle of Jack.

This is what 77 looks like for miles........ cone on your left and wall on your right. "Work Zone"

 

This absolutely wild how extreme people are responding in this thread.

[TheCasillas]

56 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

How else can I take it?  Your long winded justification of his actions doesn't change the fact that what he did was illegal and incredibly dangerous to himself and anyone else who may have been in that work zone with him. 

You cannot dismiss that as being young and mischievous.  It's wreckless endangerment and beyond stupid.  Just because you don't see anyone in the work zone doesn't give you a pass.

 Nearly every person that has killed someone in the work zone has said they never saw the person they struck.  Hell it was long ago that some idiot was speeding in a work zone and drove trough the barrels 1500 feet away from a concrete operation and continued on until he struck the concrete truck crushing a worker and the truck operator killing both.  He claimed he never saw the truck or the workers.

So yeah, it's not a big deal.

so dramatic. Cue Michael Bay scene.

[FugAllY'all]

I'm inclined to say if he wasn't under the influence then I'm not gonna crucify the guy, but it certainly shows some poor judgement. You can downplay it as much as you want, but at the end of the day, I'd rather my star rookie not get cited for what is felony speeding in some states. Hopefully its a wake up call and not the start of a trend. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I would rather it not have happened too, but on the list of possible bad decisions of a 21 year old guy freshly into millions of dollars, this is safely within the minor issue category.

[Mikey818]

12 minutes ago, FugAllY'all said:

I'm inclined to say if he wasn't under the influence then I'm not gonna crucify the guy, but it certainly shows some poor judgement. You can downplay it as much as you want, but at the end of the day, I'd rather my star rookie not get cited for what is felony speeding in some states. Hopefully its a wake up call and not the start of a trend. 

This from a guy who is a college guy who we invested millions of bucks in? Disappointing, hope he doesn’t go the way of Elliot with a string of goof ups.