REMINDER: THE SAINTS lNTENTIALLY INJURED BRETT FAVRE IN THE 2009 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

[Iron Saint]

59 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

Tagliabue dumped the players suspensions putting the bulk of the blame on the coaches, but his comments in no way said there was "NOT A SHRED OF CREDIBLE EVIDENCE".

He dumped the suspensions to save the League from having to go to court due to the NFLPA being ready to sue the pants off them which would’ve revealed all the “50,000 pages of evidence” they had to be nothing but a pile of . He knew Führer Goodell royally screwed the poach with the way he handled it and had to do damage control to prevent an even larger egg landing on the League’s face.

Answer me this: If the evidence was so substantial, why hasn’t anymore of it leaked out to the public? It’s been almost 7 years since the “scandal” broke and almost 9 years since the game in question was played and yet nothing has surfaced... Not even a single page of those 50,000 at the League’s disposal?

37 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

https://youtu.be/tJLqcWtdfbQ

kill the head

OH NO, FOOTBALL COACHES SAY MEAN THINGS! ALERT THE PRESS!

[TheRumGone]

18 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

He dumped the suspensions to save the League from having to go to court due to the NFLPA being ready to sue the pants off them which would’ve revealed all the “50,000 pages of evidence” they had to be nothing but a pile of . He knew Führer Goodell royally screwed the poach with the way he handled it and had to do damage control to prevent an even larger egg landing on the League’s face.

Answer me this: If the evidence was so substantial, why hasn’t anymore of it leaked out to the public? It’s been almost 7 years since the “scandal” broke and almost 9 years since the game in question was played and yet nothing has surfaced... Not even a single page of those 50,000 at the League’s disposal?

OH NO, FOOTBALL COACHES SAY MEAN THINGS! ALERT THE PRESS!

However you wanna rationalize “I got you first” and giving the universal money sign by rubbing his fingers together. But this did in fact happen. If it were the panthers I would’ve wanted a regime change immediately. 

[Sasquatch]

52 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

He dumped the suspensions to save the League from having to go to court due to the NFLPA being ready to sue the pants off them which would’ve revealed all the “50,000 pages of evidence” they had to be nothing but a pile of . He knew Führer Goodell royally screwed the poach with the way he handled it and had to do damage control to prevent an even larger egg landing on the League’s face.

At least you posted one thing that there is not a single shred of evidence to support.

52 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

Answer me this: If the evidence was so substantial, why hasn’t anymore of it leaked out to the public? It’s been almost 7 years since the “scandal” broke and almost 9 years since the game in question was played and yet nothing has surfaced... Not even a single page of those 50,000 at the League’s disposal?

There was minimal release such as the lockeroom video and powerpoint but the answer to your question is quite simple. It was destroyed as soon as possible to attempt to protect the integrity of the game. Just like the Patriots video.  Letting it be released and linger through discussion would have long term impact. You cheated and got busted. Be thankful that you kept the Lombardi with the *

[Iron Saint]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

However you wanna rationalize “I got you first” and giving the universal money sign by rubbing his fingers together. But this did in fact happen. If it were the panthers I would’ve wanted a regime change immediately. 

Ah, the “money gesture” by Williams, another thing that was never proven. Allegedly, there were two cameras being operated in the room where that defensive meeting was held: one pointed at the front of the room where Gregg Williams and the projector showing film was, the other pointed at Gleason (whom a documentary was being made on, hence the cameras) and Scott Fujita (who was on the Cleveland Browns roster at the time).

Here’s my question to you: If there’s a camera pointed at Williams while he’s giving his bravado-laced speech, why was only the audio of the speech released and not the accompanying video?

41 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

At least you posted one thing that there is not a single shred of evidence to support.

There was minimal release such as the lockeroom video and powerpoint but the answer to your question is quite simple. It was destroyed as soon as possible to attempt to protect the integrity of the game. Just like the Patriots video.  Letting it be released and linger through discussion would have long term impact. You cheated and got busted. Be thankful that you kept the Lombardi with the *

That’s fine point, however, there’s one problem with that statement: the NFL didn’t release the audio-only video of that defensive meeting. Sean Pamphilon, the documentary filmmaker, was the one who released the audio to Yahoo. So the NFL had no control over its dissemination.

As for the “protecting the Shield”, I agree with that partially. However, there wasn’t any evidence destroyed; it frankly just never existed in the first place. It all came down to there needing to be a scapegoat for the League to show their “hard-lined stance on player safety” with the impending billion dollar concussion lawsuits looming over their heads.

You’re telling me an entity as large as the NFL, that has spent decades denying and attempting to cover up any connection between head injuries sustained by playing football and the long-term mental and brain disorders suffered by former players, wouldn’t act unethically by fabricating allegations against a team if it prevented the League’s bottom line from losing billions? If so, I got a bridge I’d like to sell you. 

And they got their sacrificial lamb plopped right into their laps, conveniently right before the leadup to those aforementioned concussion lawsuits which concluded not even a year and a half later. Things that make you go, “Hmm...”

Also, care to elaborate on how we cheated? What competitive advantage did we have over any team we played between 2009 and 2011? Y’all beat us Week 17 of 2009, we mustn’t be very good at cheating if we lost to an 8-8 Panthers team and worse, a 3-13 Buccaneers team.

[juliosantos]

if you go back on saints report they were wishing for mccaffrey or cam to get hurt during the steelers game , thats why i want eric reid to tear brees acl idc how bad of a person that makes me i hate the saints like its a rival gang 

[Zaximus]

The NFL allowed it though.   They wanted the Saints in the Super Bowl so they could prop up the Katrina redemption story line.   Just like a ton of other Super Bowls since Goodell came along, they have to have "story lines".    I watched that game, and the Saints late hit Favre play after play.     You knew they REALLY wants the Saints to advance when they let golden boy Favre get crushed all game with no flags.  

[CardiacCat]

7 hours ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

After watching this season, Id wish our defense do the same. Bc they suck

get out !!

[tiger7_88]

7 hours ago, Inimicus said:

It like people trying to give us poo over the 1-15 season.  fuging stupid.

You seem to worry a lot about what other people do and think.

Are you that much of a busy-body in real life?

[saints4lifeagain]

4 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

https://youtu.be/tJLqcWtdfbQ

kill the head

Why do people talk about that, but not about Giants players saying they wanted to take Kyle Williams (who had concussion history) out of the playoff game?

"The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him out of the game," said Jacquian Williams, who forced the second fumble, in overtime, to set up New York's game-winning field goal.

"He's had a lot of concussions," said Devin Thomas, who recovered both fumbles. "We were just like, 'We gotta put a hit on that guy.'" Later in the same interview, he told the Newark Star-Ledger that teammate and backup safety Tyler Sash "did a great job hitting him early and he looked kind of dazed when he got up. I feel like that made a difference and he coughed it up."

[Sasquatch]

2 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Ah, the “money gesture” by Williams, another thing that was never proven. Allegedly, there were two cameras being operated in the room where that defensive meeting was held: one pointed at the front of the room where Gregg Williams and the projector showing film was, the other pointed at Gleason (whom a documentary was being made on, hence the cameras) and Scott Fujita (who was on the Cleveland Browns roster at the time).

Here’s my question to you: If there’s a camera pointed at Williams while he’s giving his bravado-laced speech, why was only the audio of the speech released and not the accompanying video?

That’s fine point, however, there’s one problem with that statement: the NFL didn’t release the audio-only video of that defensive meeting. Sean Pamphilon, the documentary filmmaker, was the one who released the audio to Yahoo. So the NFL had no control over its dissemination.

As for the “protecting the Shield”, I agree with that partially. However, there wasn’t any evidence destroyed; it frankly just never existed in the first place. It all came down to there needing to be a scapegoat for the League to show their “hard-lined stance on player safety” with the impending billion dollar concussion lawsuits looming over their heads.

You’re telling me an entity as large as the NFL, that has spent decades denying and attempting to cover up any connection between head injuries sustained by playing football and the long-term mental and brain disorders suffered by former players, wouldn’t act unethically by fabricating allegations against a team if it prevented the League’s bottom line from losing billions? If so, I got a bridge I’d like to sell you. 

And they got their sacrificial lamb plopped right into their laps, conveniently right before the leadup to those aforementioned concussion lawsuits which concluded not even a year and a half later. Things that make you go, “Hmm...”

Also, care to elaborate on how we cheated? What competitive advantage did we have over any team we played between 2009 and 2011? Y’all beat us Week 17 of 2009, we mustn’t be very good at cheating if we lost to an 8-8 Panthers team and worse, a 3-13 Buccaneers team.

A whole lot of crap that confirms that you wish to remain in denial. Let it go. Accept your "*" and move on.

[RumHam]

Remember, the Saints are the league's gifthorse franchise thanks to a hurricane that happened 13 years ago. The Carolinas had Hugo so where's our support? 

[Jmac]

They won't need to intentionally hurt Cam....they don't  need any illegal hits to beat us.  If you have eyes in your head that can see, you know this this is true. Without a miraculous 180 turn around...gonna be ugly.

 

[Sasquatch]

2 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Why do people talk about that, but not about Giants players saying they wanted to take Kyle Williams (who had concussion history) out of the playoff game?

"The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him out of the game," said Jacquian Williams, who forced the second fumble, in overtime, to set up New York's game-winning field goal.

"He's had a lot of concussions," said Devin Thomas, who recovered both fumbles. "We were just like, 'We gotta put a hit on that guy.'" Later in the same interview, he told the Newark Star-Ledger that teammate and backup safety Tyler Sash "did a great job hitting him early and he looked kind of dazed when he got up. I feel like that made a difference and he coughed it up."

First, we had a Saints guy with the denial. Now we have one with the redirection. Somebody holler for justification. He's up next.

[saints4lifeagain]

3 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

First, we had a Saints guy with the denial. Now we have one with the redirection. Somebody holler for justification. He's up next.

Not really aiming at redirection. Just always wondered why that wasn't discussed more. They just came out and said he had a history of concussions and they wanted to take him out of the game and it was hardly even a talking point. Or the countless amounts of former players that said they had a similar program.