Rivera throwing in the towel for Week 17, per Rodrigue

[rippadonn]

Duh. Season is over. Stupid to risk any of our starters.

[Lumps]

This is the first sensible thing Rivera had done this season.

[Mr. Scot]

37 minutes ago, thennek said:

I think Rivera stays but Hurney goes 

Definitely possible.

The one thing I would note: If that happens, this would be the third time a GM has been fired while working with Rivera as a head coach.

Granted, Gettleman was fired because Richardson was a moron. Hurney's initial firing, on the other hand, came because Marty agreed to fall on the sword to save Rivera when Richardson wanted to let him go.

Certain players get reputations for being "coach killers". At what point do you start referring to Rivera as a "GM killer"?

 

[Lumps]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Definitely possible.

The one thing I would note: If that happens, this would be the third time a GM has been fired while working with Rivera as a head coach.

Granted, Gettleman was fired because Richardson was a moron. Hurney's initial firing, on the other hand, came because Marty agreed to fall on the sword to save Rivera when Richardson wanted to let him go.

Certain players get reputations for being "coach killers". At what point do you start referring to Rivera as a "GM killer"?

 

Is it common to force GMs to retain a HC they have no say in?

[Wyank]

Just now, Lumps said:

Is it common to force GMs to retain a HC they have no say in?

If your team resides in Charlotte then yes. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Lumps said:

Is it common to force GMs to retain a HC they have no say in?

It happens. I don't know that I'd say it's common.

Of concern to me would be that Tepper would be repeating something Jerry Richardson did. That's generally not a good thing.

If you're going to hire a new GM, and I agree that you should, then let him decide what happens to Rivera. Don't force him to endorse a coach he might not believe in.

[MVPccaffrey]

I tried to tell you all he was coming  back.  Most of the huddle was simply projecting their own feelings on the matter and refused to look at it objectively.

 

Hurney is out, and a new GM gets to evaluate Coach Rivera, as it should be.  Even if you hate Coach Rivera, you don't fire both at once, because then by the time you get a new GM, you have to then accept a new coach off the scrap heap.  

[Boundary Guru]

As we should. Heck, if Ron doesn't do this, he should be put out to pasture during halftime.

[bigdog10]

Sitting our studs for this game is the best coaching decision he will have made all year. 

[Gladniator1]

For all we know Tepper forced this decision from on high.  I don't think Rivera has ever done it before when we were eliminated.  He kept the starters going.  If he keeps Rivera, I'll have a fit.  Can't imagine anyone not seeing the writing on the wall.  3 winning seasons out of 8?  Is that right?

[Boundary Guru]

I am a believer that we keep Ron and find a new GM. like has already been posted let the new GM make the coaching decision after next season. Not going to go well trying to get a good GM and coach the same off season. It would be a horrible decision and could possibly set us back another 4 years. 

[catnip]

I would like to see Armah at a combo TE/FB position to see if we draft a future TE to replace Olsen .  Thomas is set but we might need a #2 .

[Gucceland]

49 minutes ago, Shocker said:

A win does nothing but hurt the team at this point.  No brainer here.

Agreed.  You could cost yourself 5 to 6 draft positions.  For what?

[beastson]

36 minutes ago, Camvp said:

I tried to tell you all he was coming  back.  Most of the huddle was simply projecting their own feelings on the matter and refused to look at it objectively.

 

Hurney is out, and a new GM gets to evaluate Coach Rivera, as it should be.  Even if you hate Coach Rivera, you don't fire both at once, because then by the time you get a new GM, you have to then accept a new coach off the scrap heap.  

We're not keeping Ron and removing Hurney. If Ron isn't removed, Hurney won't be either. If the excuse is a injured Cam Newton, that means almost everyone is safe

This is bullshit if it plays out this way