Steve Smith: Jerry Richardson wanted Peppers, Fox didn’t

[trueblade]

1 minute ago, beastson said:

Right so Steve Smith, Gross, Norman, D.Will and so many others that left disgruntled was Richardson, not Gettleman right

I think you have to look at each instance and see whose fingerprints are on it. The moves you referred to seem to fit a gruff GM like Gettleman. I find it plausible he's most likely responsible for those situations. 

Matt Khalil, Armanti Edwards, Brenton Bersin, and the bevy of huge contracts given to aging veterans are some examples that come to mind of moves from a guy trying to run his business like a family. I find it plausible Richardson is most likely responsible for those situations. 

What this new revelation about the drafting of Peppers shows me is Jerry was every bit as meddling as someone like Jerry Jones and that has to be taken into account as we look at the history of the moves made during his time by both Gettleman and Hurney. 

[R2-D2]

46 minutes ago, beastson said:

Right so Steve Smith, Gross, Norman, D.Will and so many others that left disgruntled was Richardson, not Gettleman right

Gross? So disgruntled he left and got a job....with the panthers?

[KaseKlosed]

3 hours ago, PhillyB said:

also, does anyone here think rivera wanted brenton bersin on the team? lol

B i g f a c t s.... Jerry limited Rons decisions. Like a water downed jerry jones

[pantherj]

At the time Fox said that Peppers was the obvious pick.

[pantherj]

I love Smith's contributions to the Panthers as a player, but I don't trust him or anything he has to say. He comes off as an asshole and my gut tells me he's full of poo.

[NJPanthers12]

5 minutes ago, pantherj said:

I love Smith's contributions to the Panthers as a player, but I don't trust him or anything he has to say. He comes off as an asshole and my gut tells me he's full of poo.

Finally someone with common sense.

[Jeremy Igo]

Take with a grain of salt.

[Lumps]

4 hours ago, PhillyB said:

non-story. jerry wanted lots of players who could make his business a buck by putting wallets in the stands regardless of what his coaching staff wanted on the field. 

Yep....meddling owner.

Matt Kalil for example everyone blames on gettleman yet it was a signing, the ONLY signing that was anti gettleman, wasn’t his style in any way shape or form.

It was a JR signing. JR gave farewell tours. 

That said, as a Hurley ‘hater’ it makes me reevaluate my thoughts on him as I’m sure his hand was forced and manipulated quite a bit through the years.

but I digress, finally a new owner and era...give him time and I know we will see a buisness aimed at winning vs a family getting along, keeping secrets and ultimately holding up the progress of the Panthers

[Lumps]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

JR also wanted Bersin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And Armanti Edwards

Bersin was from waffford...simple college loyalty.

AE from app state, simple. Local hero who would put butts in the seat and more tune in. Business strategy.

JR meddled like hell and never took the hard earned route of winning to create fans instead played it like a casual business and preyed on the weak...name recognition, local players, family atmosphere etc etc

thank god he’s gone

[Mr. Scot]

I suspect a lot of what Steve Smith says these days is primarily for the purpose of advancing the career of Steve Smith.

That's not to say he's lying. it's just kind of the nature of what he does for a living now.

[Snake]

4 hours ago, PhillyB said:

non-story. jerry wanted lots of players who could make his business a buck by putting wallets in the stands regardless of what his coaching staff wanted on the field. 

Fact was he was right. Tepper is looking like he might be wrong in his personal moves.

[Snake]

2 minutes ago, Lumps said:

Bersin was from waffford...simple college loyalty.

AE from app state, simple. Local hero who would put butts in the seat and more tune in. Business strategy.

JR meddled like hell and never took the hard earned route of winning to create fans instead played it like a casual business and preyed on the weak...name recognition, local players, family atmosphere etc etc

thank god he’s gone

JR also picked Cam and CMC. Good players are good for business. 

[Lumps]

6 minutes ago, Snake said:

JR also picked Cam and CMC. Good players are good for business. 

Let’s put it into context 

CMC was an obvious pick, who would have for better here for need and value?

the only and I say ONLY reason JR took Cam in 2011 was the lockout creating a cap.

Cam was as raw as raw gets, a HUGE liability. Business move. Because JR didn’t have to give out a Stafford type contracts. A new cap for first rounders was put into place making Cam not as big as a financial risk. Cam was a boom or bust type and with the cap in place the risk, specifically financially risk was at a premium low.

id bet my life had a cap not been put in place the panthers, JR,  would have never EVER touched cam.

[pnthrs]

So Jerry wanted Peppers and didn’t get his way but wanted Bersin and got his way?  This thread is full of stupid.  

Im yet to see one shred of evidence that Bersin was kept due to a Richardson tie.  Lots of wofford players he could have shown favoritism toward but didn’t. 

 

Wow.  It’s really the off season. Tin foil hats and all.