Shots Fired - #gettlemagic

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

I'm sorry, but I don't put much stock into PFF. It was plain to see that the offensive line and receivers is what failed in the big game.

 What metric would you like to use. Do you have anything but your highly biased opinion? Maybe you can find articles highlighting how bad the OL was? Should be no problem. Just skip past PFF on your google search.

 The Broncos defense weren’t laughing at our players. They made direct statements about lack of adjustments. Shula. 

[Basbear]

Dave had inexperience issues to overcome and made other mistakes, but waving Steve Smith was not one of them. His handling was poor.

 

There have been plenty of rumors of Smitty openly cussing out Newton and getting in his face/bowing up a couple of times too. Each different time the Panther leadership told him to stop, he kept doing it.  

[MHS831]

5 hours ago, RumHam said:

TBF, you're one in a million with most of those millions trying to resell it. I wouldn't even bother with it. They've been told to avoid people without kids and most of those people now just use their kids to get the signature. Maybe he had a bad day, who knows. Can't go out just calling someone an asshole.

I realize that, but Garrett was by himself--I was standing 20 feet away, back.  I had a camera to get a shot of Smitty  with Garrett to frame and put beside the jersey.  If your child's teacher treated your child that way, I doubt you would accept the "had a bad day," excuse.  To your point--autographs should be for kids,  but  that does not excuse his actions toward a child--my son was shaken by the incident--you  can't excuse that, sorry.  TBF, if you had been there you would have thought, "what an asshole."  Everyone around us was stunned and said so.

I also watched him verbally abuse Dwayne Jarrett during his rookie OTA.  I watched Smith.  He only really interacted with one teammate informally--Kasay, oddly enough.

Smitty sucker punched 2 teammates.  He harassed qbs for not throwing to him.  (Clausen to the press).

If that is not an asshole, please help me understand what an asshole is.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Ruthlesss

[Car123]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

What he said above. The Broncos D basically said they were ready for everything we ran. Shula gave Remmers no help with Miller which might be as stupid as you get but didn’t have an issue going to Tolbert multiple times.

As much as everyone here hates KB, he would have been the difference maker in that game. He was our best weapon week 1 of 2016 and that was the first game back. Man, of all the people who probably weren’t mentally equipped to handle an injury like that, we had some bad luck there. He looked so good in preseason, as did the rest of the team that gelled in the 2014 run into the playoffs. If he doesn’t tear his ACL, might have been a whole different person.

KB wasn't going to do anything that year. 3 catches for 36 yards isn't "so good." We mjght not have won 15 games that year with Benjamin. Our speed and lack of a primary #1 was one of our biggest strengths.

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, Actionman0z said:

And DG was a dick to everyone he delt with, which is why he got axed. 

He recognized the emotional attachments  RR and JR  had with  players and tried to set the tone--yes, he made some folks upset.  I tell my students that anyone can be a leader 95% of the time.  It is when the leader has to  separate from the crowd and make a tough, objective decision--the 5% that makes him a leader.  Gettlemen did that, but I am not sure his decisions were good.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Actionman0z said:

And DG was a dick to everyone he delt with, which is why he got axed. 

Actually was more about our dumbass owner (who coincidentally was trying to stick his dick into half the people he dealt with).

[steven8989]

2 hours ago, Actionman0z said:

And DG was a dick to everyone he delt with, which is why he got axed. 

Yeah look at what Giant fans are saying and Gettleman is getting rid of everyone there as well. People can poo on me all they want but he never got this team 3 division titles and a super bowl appearance. It was all Cam, Luke, Olsen, and TD. Gettleman was a terrible GM and Hurney is not better. But the team wants to be mediocre so i guess that's what I get to pull for!

[GeorgeHanson]

4 hours ago, Actionman0z said:

And DG was a dick to everyone he delt with, which is why he got axed. 

Not at all.

He got axed because he refused to extend the contracts of a couple of aging veterans,  and the unstable and ill-tempered owner got really mad and had a knee jerk reaction -- which was to fire Mr. Gettleman.

The Panthers are worse off for it...

[GeorgeHanson]

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I realize that, but Garrett was by himself--I was standing 20 feet away, back.  I had a camera to get a shot of Smitty  with Garrett to frame and put beside the jersey.  If your child's teacher treated your child that way, I doubt you would accept the "had a bad day," excuse.  To your point--autographs should be for kids,  but  that does not excuse his actions toward a child--my son was shaken by the incident--you  can't excuse that, sorry.  TBF, if you had been there you would have thought, "what an asshole."  Everyone around us was stunned and said so.

I also watched him verbally abuse Dwayne Jarrett during his rookie OTA.  I watched Smith.  He only really interacted with one teammate informally--Kasay, oddly enough.

Smitty sucker punched 2 teammates.  He harassed qbs for not throwing to him.  (Clausen to the press).

If that is not an asshole, please help me understand what an asshole is.

You are spot on.

[heel31ok]

Luv me some Steve Smith...

[Car123]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

What are you talking about? KB has 6 catches for 91 yards and a TD against Denver in week 1 after the Super Bowl. The whole we would have been worse with Benjamin instead of Cotchery is laughable and still one of the silliest arguments ever seeing how it ignores everything else that fell apart. KB was looking fantastic in preseason in 2015.

Now that we have another season without KB we are 13-12 without KB and 11-13 with KB since 2015. Man, what a difference. It must have been KB coming back that made us suck. With a healthy and stable OL, we’re 13-7 since 2016 and we’re 11-18 once we lost a key tackle and had to shuffle around. Hmm, maybe that #2 ranked OL and the +20 turnover margin (best since 2011) had more impact on 2015’s success than having Cotchery instead of KB. Heck Ganope lost 4 games in 2016. If he kicks like 2017, we’re 10-6 even with the injuries 

Blaming KB for 2016 and saying he’s the reason we were 15-1 is just lazy analysis especially after 2018. 

KB had 3 catches for 56 yards in preseason. Nothing fantastic about that. KB isn't a good WR. We are better without him. Our record without KB after 2015 would be better, if not for Cam's noodle arm.

[GeorgeHanson]

2 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Luv me some Steve Smith...

I'd like to see him pull a Whitten and suit up for the Panthers again this year....

....there's a void of leadership in the locker-room, some Steve Smith is what the doctor ordered.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Ruthless and scandalous .........and also outrageous