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How the NFL sees us

Mr. Scot

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For those who like to take an "us against the world" mentality, this might provide some fuel for your fire.

The bolded list below (and the Bills, mentioned in the prior paragraph) would constitute what the NFL seems to consider our "peer group" based on prime time scheduling.

PFT: Low expectations and populations

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While the Bills are the only team shut outof national prime-time audiences this season, there are eight other teams who make a single appearance in the highest-profile games.

The Cardinals, Panthers, Bengals, Lions, Jaguars, Dolphins, Buccaneers, and Titans each make one appearance in a prime-time game.

Of that group, half of them are isolated into Thursdays early in the season when games are only shown on NFL Network, before the Fox national package kicks in (Panthers-Bucs in Week Two and Jaguars-Titans in Week Three). The Cardinals have a Thursday against the 49ers, while the Bengals, Lions and Dolphins appear on Mondays.

Part of the justification can be viewed through a competitive lens, as none of the eight single-dippers made the playoffs last year (and only the Panthers, Jaguars, and Titans made the postseason in 2017).

But the teams also represent some of the league’s smaller markets.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

For those who like to take an "us against the world" mentality, this might provide some fuel for your fire.

The bolded list below (and the Bills, mentioned in the prior paragraph) would constitute what the NFL seems to consider our "peer group" based on prime time scheduling.

PFT: Low expectations and populations

They'll switch their lenses by Week 8. Keep Pounding!

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Has more to do with the team being in a small market than it does performance on the field. The Giants sucked last year but still have 3 primetime games. Sunday Night Football hasn't featured the Panthers since the tie-gate game where Derek Anderson threw a pick-6 to open up the game in Seattle. 

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15 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

Win consistently

Problem solved 

exactly. the world doesn't care that we have a nice coach and that  we more or less like our teams. 

there is only one thing that matters...winning. You want respect, earn it. Win every year...not every other year.

being mediocre and having potential doesn't mean poo. winning matters. we get the respect or disrespect we deserve. 

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4 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Has more to do with the team being in a small market than it does performance on the field. The Giants sucked last year but still have 3 primetime games. Sunday Night Football hasn't featured the Panthers since the tie-gate game where Derek Anderson threw a pick-6 to open up the game in Seattle. 

They have no problem putting Green Bay (the smallest market if I'm not mistaken) in Prime Time.

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10 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

Win consistently

Problem solved 

Exactly... that is the only way we are going to get prime time games... it really is as simple as that...

And it depends of what we have done the year before... and honestly speaking, this team has consistently crapped the bed in prime time over the last few years.

Atlanta is the only media market in the NFC South that even moves the needle, and they aren't consistently on prime time b/c of the percentage of transplants and the lukewarm support overall of the team.  And like us, the general inconsistency...

New Orleans is relevant b/c they are winning... once Brees is gone, they are on par with the Bills in terms of media market, despite what the deluded swampers think.  And to be honest, New Orleans in the Brees era always seems to put up offense no matter what- that matters to a national audience and to ratings.

Green Bay and Pittsburgh are somewhat outliers in that they punch way above their market size b/c of their national fanbases (and both have been good and have elite QBs).

So much of it does come down to market size and fanbase size... Dallas is almost always going to get 5 games no matter what... The Giants are still getting 3 games despite maybe being the worst team in the league b/c they are New York.  The Patriots were not a fixture in prime time before the Belichick/Brady era.

The Browns have a lot of attention this year, but if they revert back to mediocrity they will be MIA from prime time next year.  As with a lot of the "sexy" teams going into this year... if you're not big market, you are always on thin-ice in terms of being in prime time.

Bottom line is the Panthers have to consistently win the previous year to get prime time games the next.. no getting around... and that's not unfair... TV people care about ratings... and the only way the Panthers generate ratings is being good... just like over half the teams in the league.

Being a "younger team" without consistent success, the Panthers really punch below their media market size... The Panthers are in a growing market with good local fan support and an owner that will spend... this is wonderful for us as fans, and it ensures the long-term viability of the Panthers staying in the Carolinas, but it's not going to translate to national TV without winning

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6 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Completely agree, but Raiders and Browns got a ton and they haven’t won consistently. I get the Browns bc all the hype, but Oakland?

The Las Vegas drama...and Gruden.

it's also fair to say that the Raiders have been around a lot longer than us and have a legitimate national fan base.

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4 minutes ago, trueblade said:

They have no problem putting Green Bay (the smallest market if I'm not mistaken) in Prime Time.

It's a totally unique situation because of the historical stature of the team and national fanbase... much like Pittsburgh, they punch way above their media market in terms of national interest in the team.  Plus, for the most part, year in and year out they are good and in competition for the playoffs.

Detroit is a much bigger media market but doesn't sniff prime time near as much b/c of their consistent mediocrity.

Green Bay & Pittsburgh are outliers in that there is much more national interest relative to their market size.

On the flip side, Atlanta, Detroit, and Miami are large media markets without large national fanbases.  Seatlle was kind of in that same boat until the last 10-15 years when they started having consistent success.  Miami has fallen off b/c they have went 30 years without being good.

Dallas is an interesting case b/c they have somehow maintained a massive national fanbase despite 20+ years of mediocrity

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23 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Completely agree, but Raiders and Browns got a ton and they haven’t won consistently. I get the Browns bc all the hype, but Oakland?

Last year In Oakland

Three first round picks

Antonio Brown , John Gruden

NFL also loves drama 

2020   Vegas Opener will be Thursday for Monday night

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