Marty Hurney tried to trade up to get Greg Little as early as the No. 21 overall pick in the first round

[SetfreexX]

Lot of those posts gonna look real suspect if Little taps his potential. 

[kungfoodude]

17 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Lot of those posts gonna look real suspect if Little taps his potential. 

I said drafting Cam was a huge mistake, so I have no issue being wrong if the team is better. If Little taps his potential then Hurney looks like a fuging genius.

[45catfan]

44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I said drafting Cam was a huge mistake, so I have no issue being wrong if the team is better. If Little taps his potential then Hurney looks like a fuging genius.

Cam has been better than I originally thought as well and I also thought CMC was too undersized to run between the tackles, mainly because I didn't think he could bulk up like he has. 

I can be wrong too, but it's not like this team has a history of batting .1000 on it's draft day selections either or even remotely close.  Heck, I'll take .500 at this point!  By year three, less than half of that draft class is still a Panther.  If Elder sticks this year, that will be four from the 2017 draft class on the roster and a rare successful daft class.

[Panthero]

Still not sure why Hurney hasnt figured out his best strategy is to draft a ton fug of players every year, not trade up and cross his fingers

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

22 hours ago, 45catfan said:

I can be wrong too, but it's not like this team has a history of batting .1000 on it's draft day selections either or even remotely close.  Heck, I'll take .500 at this point!  By year three, less than half of that draft class is still a Panther.  If Elder sticks this year, that will be four from the 2017 draft class on the roster and a rare successful daft class.

Hitting 0.500 on a draft class consistently would be insane.  You'd be the best drafter in the history of the NFL.  

[rippadonn]

Yeah, um, last year insisting we pick up Donte Jackson and drafting DJ Moore plus Ian Thomas was one of the best looking drafts ever! Yet Hurney is sooooooooooooooo stupid! Ok

If Brian Burns and Greg Little ball out it will be time for some crow to be served. Roasted or BBQ?

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Yeah, um, last year insisting we pick up Donte Jackson and drafting DJ Moore plus Ian Thomas was one of the best looking drafts ever! Yet Hurney is sooooooooooooooo stupid! Ok

If Brian Burns and Greg Little ball out it will be time for some crow to be served. Roasted or BBQ?

I was a fan of the 2017 draft, for sure. Let's be careful anointing guys with one year of success, however. "Best ever" is a 4-6 year take, not a one season take. Especially with this franchise. The amount of promising first year players that ended up as busts is disturbingly high for us.

Don't jinx it.

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 hours ago, Panthero said:

Still not sure why Hurney hasnt figured out his best strategy is to draft a ton fug of players every year, not trade up and cross his fingers

Right

[rippadonn]

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I was a fan of the 2017 draft, for sure. Let's be careful anointing guys with one year of success, however. "Best ever" is a 4-6 year take, not a one season take. Especially with this franchise. The amount of promising first year players that ended up as busts is disturbingly high for us.

Don't jinx it.

You are one of my favorite posters and I really mean that but....

 

Roasted or BBQ? I'm gonna need a huge oven or one of them tractor trailer sized BBQ grills.

[rippadonn]

Moton has been ballin out too.

[rippadonn]

I don't see GM as a position you age out of it's probably something you age into. Marty made mistakes and he knows it, some of that was JR. Look what he has done without JR and that's Marty 2.0.

[45catfan]

3 hours ago, rippadonn said:

I don't see GM as a position you age out of it's probably something you age into. Marty made mistakes and he knows it, some of that was JR. Look what he has done without JR and that's Marty 2.0.

The owner normally doesn't have that kind of input on draft day outside of the first round selection (unless your name is Jerry Jones).  Fox had WAY more input than JR ever did and Marty 1.0  first round selections were never the issue, it was every other round besides the first.  It's easy to scapegoat JR now he's gone, but come on, who is pulling the trigger on day two and day three sections besides the GM, the head coach or the owner?  Let's be honest with ourselves here.

[kungfoodude]

5 hours ago, rippadonn said:

You are one of my favorite posters and I really mean that but....

 

Roasted or BBQ? I'm gonna need a huge oven or one of them tractor trailer sized BBQ grills.

Bro, it better be Eastern NC BBQ'ed.

[rippadonn]

17 hours ago, 45catfan said:

The owner normally doesn't have that kind of input on draft day outside of the first round selection (unless your name is Jerry Jones).  Fox had WAY more input than JR ever did and Marty 1.0  first round selections were never the issue, it was every other round besides the first.  It's easy to scapegoat JR now he's gone, but come on, who is pulling the trigger on day two and day three sections besides the GM, the head coach or the owner?  Let's be honest with ourselves here.

Have to agree to disagree. JR did have his hands on everything. The Jake Delhomme contract, who could or couldn't be on the team. Would Eric Reid be here if JR was here? No, and we wouldn't have benefited from him plugging that hole last season, last minute. Jerry limited the team in many many many ways.

Would Jerry Jones give up his star defensive end because of shaky accusations that resulted in nothing legally and because the media wanted a sacrifice? I really don't think so.