Aints giving Thomas 100m.. 61m guaranteed

[TheRumGone]

3 hours ago, TheRed said:

Ya'll still crying about that call?

The Panthers have lost two Super Bowls, you cock suckers have a Lombardi. Man tf up.

Homophobic

[Shotgun]

I hope Boston knocks the sh*t outa him.

[Snake]

4 hours ago, Shocker said:

What no call?  There wasn’t any pass interference there.

Exactly. Funny how saints were saying we were crying about no calls on Cam in the Super Bowl yet they are moaning about the same damn thing. 

[CarolinaNCSU]

 

 

 

[shaqattaq]

22 hours ago, mcsmoak said:

Julio you see that?  Don’t settle for anything under 105 bro

If ATL won't dish it out, the browns have money!

[saints4lifeagain]

10 hours ago, stbugs said:

What about the clear holding and hands to the face on that same play? What about the facemask no call on Goff that would have given the Rams first and goal at the one instead of having to kick a FG? What about the bunch of other calls that favored you guys?

Let's stop acting like that was the only bad call that impacted the game in a real big way. Stop being whiny bitches. We had a couple egregious calls (Cotchery's non-catch by a replay official that was a Broncos fan and Von Miller's helmet to helmet on the strip sack TD) in our SB loss and the NC judicial system wasn't deposing the NFL even though we had a proven Broncos fan as an official.

Theres holding on literally every play. I don’t even know the hold you’re talking about because it’s probably tiny and never called. 

What about the roughing the passer on the pick in OT? 

I never said the refs weren’t crummy. They sucked. Hard. All game. However, none of the calls they missed either way directly impacted the game as much as that one. The game is over if they make it. Imagine being a Saints player in that field and watching that play transpire and knowing that’s the SB and having to go back out and keep playing. 

The no call sucked. Trying to diminish it because of other missed calls that happen every game is ridiculous, and just makes you seem foolish. 

[CPcavedweller]

21 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Cam just got paid.

 

 Lazy argument. Never had anybody put up the numbers Thomas is is Brees and Payton’s system. 

 Cam didn't get paid as much as he's worth. I'm not sure how you're going to pay everyone though. You now have $20 mm/y tied up in a receiver. A RECEIVER! Do receiver's impact the game? Yes. But can they change the outcome of a season without a competent left tackle, defensive line and second level, and QB? No. 

With Kamara's play (even though I think he's more a product of Payton than Payton is of Kamara), he's going to command market setting pay. Brees doesn't want to retire due to the Saints salary cap ineptitude, and in another 2 seasons the Saints will be back to the 70's. 

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, saints4lifeagain said:

The no call sucked. Trying to diminish it because of other missed calls that happen every game is ridiculous, and just makes you seem foolish. 

The no call was awesome and you got exactly what you deserved. 

Now the rest of us are going to have to deal with your whiny attitudes and how the league tries to compensate it this season. Fortunately, I suspect a 4-12 for y’all in the end.

[falconidae]

15 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Didn’t lose because of the bad call is correct. 

However, they did not win because of the bad call. Games over if it’s made. 

Or you could just admit that the worst no call in NFL history cost them a trip to the SB? Did the game go on after? Sure. If it’s made do the Saints take 3 knees and kick a FG as time expires? Yes. 

It’s ok to admit they were fugged. Doesn’t make you any less of a fan. 

There were multiple no calls against the Rams that cost them points earlier in the game. You seem to be in denial about that.

And no, it's not the worst no call in NFL history.  There have been no calls in playoff games on the last play of the game.

It's not the worst no call ever because the Saints still had multiple chances to win

Being all upset about the call means Peyton gets off the hook for not calling run plays, the defense gets off the hook for allowing the rams to drive the field to tie the game and the offense gets off the hook for not scoring when having the ball first in OT.

[saints4lifeagain]

5 hours ago, stbugs said:

Umm, the no call on the face mask cost the Rams 4 points. Don’t diminish that play as if the PI was the only key play in an OT game.

Also, while holding happens a lot, hands to the face is usually called. Go look at the images from the other angles on that play and you’ll see the two clear penalties on the OL. It wasn’t a ticky tack hold and the hands to the face was blatant. Penalties and no calls are why fans think that things are rigged. It’s easy to hold back a flag on an obvious face mask on 3rd down and know you kept 4 more points off the board. 

Imagine complaining about calls from a SB 4 years ago in a game you were dominated in and yet excusing the worst no call in history. 

Makes sense. 

4 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

 Cam didn't get paid as much as he's worth. I'm not sure how you're going to pay everyone though. You now have $20 mm/y tied up in a receiver. A RECEIVER! Do receiver's impact the game? Yes. But can they change the outcome of a season without a competent left tackle, defensive line and second level, and QB? No. 

With Kamara's play (even though I think he's more a product of Payton than Payton is of Kamara), he's going to command market setting pay. Brees doesn't want to retire due to the Saints salary cap ineptitude, and in another 2 seasons the Saints will be back to the 70's. 

Cam took what he wanted because he wants to retire a Saint. 

4 hours ago, Harbingers said:

The no call was awesome and you got exactly what you deserved. 

Now the rest of us are going to have to deal with your whiny attitudes and how the league tries to compensate it this season. Fortunately, I suspect a 4-12 for y’all in the end.

The no call is a black eye on NFL officiating. 

3 hours ago, falconidae said:

There were multiple no calls against the Rams that cost them points earlier in the game. You seem to be in denial about that.

And no, it's not the worst no call in NFL history.  There have been no calls in playoff games on the last play of the game.

It's not the worst no call ever because the Saints still had multiple chances to win

Being all upset about the call means Peyton gets off the hook for not calling run plays, the defense gets off the hook for allowing the rams to drive the field to tie the game and the offense gets off the hook for not scoring when having the ball first in OT.

Negative. Precisely why I said it’s not the reason they lost. It’s the reason they didn’t win, however. 

I remember the bitchfest after the NFC title game va the 9ers about Roddy being interferes with on a play MUCH less egregious, and some may even say not interference at all. Let’s not act like if this was your franchise or even any other franchise than a division rival like you would completely agree. 

The call cost them a trip to the SB. End of story. Of course we’re upset about it. 

[CPcavedweller]

35 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Imagine complaining about calls from a SB 4 years ago in a game you were dominated in and yet excusing the worst no call in history. 

Makes sense. 

Cam took what he wanted because he wants to retire a Saint. 

The no call is a black eye on NFL officiating. 

Negative. Precisely why I said it’s not the reason they lost. It’s the reason they didn’t win, however. 

I remember the bitchfest after the NFC title game va the 9ers about Roddy being interferes with on a play MUCH less egregious, and some may even say not interference at all. Let’s not act like if this was your franchise or even any other franchise than a division rival like you would completely agree. 

The call cost them a trip to the SB. End of story. Of course we’re upset about it. 

We weren't dominated in that Super Bowl by any means. Our offensive line was a turnstile but so was everyone elses who played the Broncos that post season. I was concerned that was Tom Brady's Brett Favre moment. 

[falconidae]

3 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

 

Negative. Precisely why I said it’s not the reason they lost. It’s the reason they didn’t win, however. 

 

Not sure what the difference between "reason they lost" and "reason they didn't win" is, exactly.

There were numerous blown calls both ways, had they gotten the earlier calls right, Rams could easily have had  a 10 point lead and won in regulation.  

And, you'd be hard pressed to find any posts of mine on TATF about the refs on  White play from 2012, cause I didn't make any.

[Basbear]

Im tired of seeing these false report on saints cap, this should explain some.

Since 2009 the cap has nearly doubled. Saints kicked the can down the road during this, it causes less of of impact paying 5 million in space for 170 limit than 130. They worded contracts to hit in the later years, when there was more space.

In 2015 they had 35 million in dead space. In 2020 no matter if Drew(alone) plays or not they will have to pay 20-25 million in cap space.  This year they have 4th highest total in dead space at 16 million.

[saints4lifeagain]

16 hours ago, stbugs said:

He doesn’t get how a single call can change the game. Cotchery’s catch (the announcers all said it was a catch) was overruled by an official who was a Broncos fan. We would have been At midfield and driving, coincidentally we scored a TD on our next possession. Instead it’s 3rd and 10 after a run and a strip sack for a TD. We lost by 14. If we drive and score no 7 points for the Broncos and more points for us. Completely different game if we are trying to come back against that D. We had 10 more first downs and 60% more total yards. The turnovers and bad calls (even with the head hunting we had twice as many penalties and penalty yards. We dominated more on defense but didn’t get the calls that led to huge turnovers. 18 of Denver’s 24 points were scored with 3 yards of total offense and a 15 yard fumble return.

Also, @saints4lifeagain how is a team dominated when you are down by 6 and had multiple possessions before the other team scores with 3 minutes left in the game. We could have easily won with if Gano didn’t suck, Tolbert’s fat ass could hold onto the ball, our punt return team didn’t assume a fair catch or a Denver fan wasn’t in control of replay.

That said, we sucked it up because we lost. We are pansy crybabies who cover our ears when people point out the facts that they got a ton of other calls putting them in that position or not offsetting the play where they were robbed.

Imagine arguing that a single play can change the game while failing to admit that the blown call with a minute and some change left cost the Saints a trip to the SB. 

All the while, complaining about poo from a SB loss 4 years ago. 

15 hours ago, falconidae said:

Not sure what the difference between "reason they lost" and "reason they didn't win" is, exactly.

There were numerous blown calls both ways, had they gotten the earlier calls right, Rams could easily have had  a 10 point lead and won in regulation.  

And, you'd be hard pressed to find any posts of mine on TATF about the refs on  White play from 2012, cause I didn't make any.

Feel like it’s pretty self explanatory. The Saints had other opportunities to win the game after, so it’s not the reason they lost. However, if you make the call, the game is essentially over as they kick a FG as time expires, so it’s most certainly the reason they didn’t win. 

Basically, you don’t make the call, and the Saints can keep playing and have chances to win, so they didn’t lose because of it. But if you make the call, the Saints win. It’s really the only way I feel like you can accurately describe it. That way, you don’t excuse the call, but you also don’t excuse the Saints for not making plays after the call.