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Steve Beurlein blasts Luck for retiring

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RenoCarolina Proficient

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Just now, Toomers said:

Luck could have went on IR and collected 9+M more from them. Then quit when it didn’t get better. Facts are fun. 

Yes they are.

And based on Irsay telling Luck to "keep the change" on his $21M bonus payments you think he would have minded the $9M more?

 

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4 minutes ago, RenoCarolina said:

Yes they are.

And based on Irsay telling Luck to "keep the change" on his $21M bonus payments you think he would have minded the $9M more?

 

  Which shows exactly why they did this. He saved them some, and kept what they already paid him. If they were pissed  they would have went after that money Megatron-Barry Sanders style. But the team he screwed seems to be ok with it. 

 And 9M always means something to the salary cap. 

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30 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I love the assumptions you make, and it still doesn't do ANYTHING to prove your point. 

The NFL is  brutal sport. I laugh at the idiots whom call players injury prone. 

My point is there is a way of handling things, and Luck did not handle this as a professional at all.

If he didn't want to suffer another injury and the prevailing rehab, which is entirely his choice, that I have no problems with, then he should have retired before the draft. Not 2 weeks before the season.

Agree, disagree, I don't care. But go ahead and make more assumptions you know nothing of. 

 

He didn't get hurt before the draft...

Pot meet kettle...

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19 minutes ago, RenoCarolina said:

Not a Colts fan, but if Cam announced in March, April, May, even June, that his body and spirit just could not handle it anymore than I would be the first person in line at his retirement parade.  

But if Cam announced his retirement in late August I would be pissed just like those Colt fans.  Andrew Luck pocketed his salary and has responsibilities as a result to his team, city, owner and fans.  Not sure what it is about Andrew that compels so many to fall all over themselves making excuses for his interceptions and performances and now this blindside announcement but he should bottle it.  

The answer as SB stated is just go on IR again.  See if your mind/body heals during the season, be with your teammates and help where you can and then your franchise can go about process of replacing you or welcoming you back next year.

 

100% disagree. Luck should go through another season, one in which will do irreparable harm to his body....because he did not get injured and subsequently decide to retire....before the draft!?

if Can did this, I would be mad for about 2 seconds before I understood. Football is big, life is bigger. No player owes anything to his teammates other than a goodbye.

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13 minutes ago, LelouchBritannia said:

100% disagree. Luck should go through another season, one in which will do irreparable harm to his body....because he did not get injured and subsequently decide to retire....before the draft!?

if Can did this, I would be mad for about 2 seconds before I understood. Football is big, life is bigger. No player owes anything to his teammates other than a goodbye.

did I say go through the season?  did SB?  Did either of us or anyone daring to criticize the great Andrew Luck ever say he should go get injured again for the team?  No, the anger is about the timing of this spontaneous decision.

Time to get real Luck Apologists, he lost the interest in playing long before this "announcement".   Everything he said in the offseason and the preseason was a fake.

 

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1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

The thing is, and luck mentioned this in the interview, he was waiting to see if this new injury would go away. It didn’t. It was pain management and he made a promise to himself that he wouldn’t go through a season in pain like he did in 2016. I understand people being upset this was two weeks until the season, especially Colts fans but to question this guys “manhood” is ridiculous. He’s proven he’s tough. He’s proven he gave his all to rehab. His teammates and the colts org prove this with what they’ve been saying/tweeting. 

The NFL isn't for everybody. 

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Aug. 4, Colts camp, Westfield, Ind — I ask Indianapolis quarterback Andrew Luck: “Opening day’s five weeks from today. Any doubt you’ll play?”

“No,” Luck says. “No doubt. I certainly believe I will.”

Aug. 19, owner Jim Irsay’s office, Colts headquarters, Indianapolis — Luck has asked to meet with Irsay, GM Chris Ballard and coach Frank Reich.

Luck says: “I’m tired, and I’m in pain. I’m gonna retire.”

good read from Peter King 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/26/fmia-andrew-luck-the-colts-and-the-retirement-that-rocked-nfls-world/

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4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I got a hangnail, I'm going to quit my job, for better quality of life. 

Thing is, nobody cares what your talent -less ass does. Quit hitting your fingers on those Walmart shelves and it will get better. 

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I get that the NFL is competitive and I understand that there is a great deal of work - teamwork - that goes into building things.

But, life has a lot of moving parts. Adjustments must always be made. Teams make adjustments by (gasp!) cutting pieces that they don't think will help them. The horror.

Andrew Luck made an adjustment to his life that he felt was in his best interest.

Why are NFL teams permitted to act in their own interest but a player is not afforded the same?

Ridiculous.

Players are under ZERO obligation to play this game.

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11 minutes ago, NAS said:

Aug. 4, Colts camp, Westfield, Ind — I ask Indianapolis quarterback Andrew Luck: “Opening day’s five weeks from today. Any doubt you’ll play?”

“No,” Luck says. “No doubt. I certainly believe I will.”

Aug. 19, owner Jim Irsay’s office, Colts headquarters, Indianapolis — Luck has asked to meet with Irsay, GM Chris Ballard and coach Frank Reich.

Luck says: “I’m tired, and I’m in pain. I’m gonna retire.”

good read from Peter King 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/26/fmia-andrew-luck-the-colts-and-the-retirement-that-rocked-nfls-world/

   I need one of you Twitter guys to post Troy Aikmans response to Doug Gottlieb. Being Twitter-illiterate I can’t do it...lol. 

  Troy is upset. 

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8 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   I need one of you Twitter guys to post Troy Aikmans response to Doug Gottlieb. Being Twitter-illiterate I can’t do it...lol. 

  Troy is upset. 

Lot's of people upset with Gottlieb.  But again, he is criticizing Luck's toughness.  The Colt fans are upset by the timing.

 

 

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