Plain as day on my cheap ass laptop screen...

[mc52beast]

You guys don’t understand... Cam hasn’t been playing long enough to get those calls

[Shocker]

4 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

 Not to mention throwing a late flag on us for holding when Greg Olsen got speared in the head to offset the penalties. We got screwed all game long. 

This has become a theme...throwing that late holding flag is amazingly frustrating 

[MasterAwesome]

Never mind.

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, MasterAwesome said:

What am I missing here? Everyone is talking about the tipped pass/fumble to DJ but the OP is about some random tipped intermediate pass to Wright? Am I the only one confused?

Yes 

[Paintballr]

What’s funny is they left this as a turnover so it could be reviewed automatically (which was the whole point of the rule change so refs would let turnovers stay and review without wasting reviews) 

but when it comes to the catch/not a catch bullshit they called incomplete and made us waste a challenge

[MasterAwesome]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Yes 

Yeah never mind...small phone screen got me. Or maybe my eyes are getting bad.

[BrianS]

To me, it's all about the positioning of the guy who tipped the ball.

In the pictures, you can see he was standing between the 10 and the 9.5 yard lines and jumped a bit.  He reached "mostly" up to tip the pass, though slightly upfield.  At best, his hand was above the 9 yard line.  Now, it's easy to see Cam was somewhere around the 8 when he released the ball.  Even if Cam released the ball at the 8.5 yard line, the ball had to go forward in order to even be in a place where the defender could conceivably tip it.

Yea, it's hard to overturn, and that sucks.  I do understand why they let the play go on, just in case it was a fumble they needed to get a clear recovery.  Unfortunately, no one was in a position to make the right call the first time.  They had to guess.  That's what went against us.

I do wish one of the replay officials had thought to look at where the defender was standing, it might have made the overturn easier.

[Knockout]

1 minute ago, BrianS said:

To me, it's all about the positioning of the guy who tipped the ball.

In the pictures, you can see he was standing between the 10 and the 9.5 yard lines and jumped a bit.  He reached "mostly" up to tip the pass, though slightly upfield.  At best, his hand was above the 9 yard line.  Now, it's easy to see Cam was somewhere around the 8 when he released the ball.  Even if Cam released the ball at the 8.5 yard line, the ball had to go forward in order to even be in a place where the defender could conceivably tip it.

Yea, it's hard to overturn, and that sucks.  I do understand why they let the play go on, just in case it was a fumble they needed to get a clear recovery.  Unfortunately, no one was in a position to make the right call the first time.  They had to guess.  That's what went against us.

I do wish one of the replay officials had thought to look at where the defender was standing, it might have made the overturn easier.

Cam was standing at the 8, but his throwing arm was at the 9.  At best, I think that pass is parallel.  Cam was trying to avoid the defender's arm and paid the price.  Nice play by the defense.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

The issue was that there wasn't enough clear evidence to overturn the call. Flame me but good on the officials for actually sticking to the rule book. There has to be clear, undeniable evidence to overturn the call on the field.

There wasn't. 

[tiger7_88]

4 minutes ago, Knockout said:

Cam was standing at the 8, but his throwing arm was at the 9.  At best, I think that pass is parallel.  Cam was trying to avoid the defender's arm and paid the price.  Nice play by the defense.

A yard is 36 inches.

Cam Newton's arm length, from shoulder to finger-tip, is 33 3/4 inches. 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cam-newton?id=2495455

Now subtract the inches lost from Cam gripping the ball.  Even a FULL SIDE-ARM THROW (and the throw wasn't even close to full side-arm) would not have met your specifications if Cam Newton was standing at the 8.

[PhillyB]

i thought it was pretty clearly a tipped backwards pass or lateral - definitely not obvious enough to overturn the call.

ultimately moore fuged up and gifted them a touchdown.

[Knockout]

6 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

A yard is 36 inches.

Cam Newton's arm length, from shoulder to finger-tip, is 33 3/4 inches. 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cam-newton?id=2495455

Now subtract the inches lost from Cam gripping the ball.  Even a FULL SIDE-ARM THROW (and the throw wasn't even close to full side-arm) would not have met your specifications if Cam Newton was standing at the 8.

Lol dude.  Do you think I meant exactly at the 8?  I don't have my ruler handy to compensate for 2 inches o.o

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, Knockout said:

Lol dude.  Do you think I meant exactly at the 8?  I don't have my ruler handy to compensate for 2 inches o.o

"I am  going to ignore physics, spatial relationships, pictures, and video and place the blame on Cam if I want to and there's nothing you can do about it!"

You should have just said that in the first place.

[Knockout]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

"I am  going to ignore physics, spatial relationships, pictures, and video and place the blame on Cam if I want to and there's nothing you can do about it!"

You should have just said that in the first place.

I can't believe I have to prove this, but take a look.  Cam's right foot is at the 9.  His release point was at like the 9.25 yard line.  Ram player's right foot is at 9.5 and he's reaching forward to barely tip that ball.  At best, it is a lateral.  Expecting refs to overturn that is a pipedream.