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Cam Newton was absolutely atrocious


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I know I defended him last week, but this game was completely out of the usual for him. Balls were constantly behind the receivers, he missed wide open throws, he delivered balls late, he was almost intercepted thee different times. I know the protection was awful, but even when he had time he was downright awful. I am not sure how much longer you stick with him if he continues performances like these, he let the defense down, he had single high coverage 90% of that game.

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2 minutes ago, Verge said:

I know I defended him last week, but this game was completely out of the usual for him. Balls were constantly behind the receivers, he missed wide open throws, he delivered balls late, he was almost intercepted thee different times. I know the protection was awful, but even when he had time he was downright awful. I am not sure how much longer you stick with him if he continues performances like these, he let the defense down, he had single high coverage 90% of that game.

So you're ready to clean house, and trade players for picks? We're not going to find a quarterback overnight. This team sure as hell doesn't have an elite defense, or a good enough offense that some random can just stand back there and game manage.

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As bad as Cam was, I do not understand how we didn't attempt a ton of screen passes with the Bucs literally running jail break blitzes rushing 7 or 8 guys. Doing that a few times would not only result in big plays but also force the Bucs to chill with their blitzes. The god awful playcalling only encouraged and rewarded the Bucs for blitzing every single down

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Just now, Krovvy said:

So you're ready to clean house, and trade players for picks? We're not going to find a quarterback overnight. This team sure as hell doesn't have an elite defense, or a good enough offense that some random can just stand back there and game manage.

I don't know how you do much worse the way he played tonight against a soft Bucs D.

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Just now, Krovvy said:

So you're ready to clean house, and trade players for picks? We're not going to find a quarterback overnight. This team sure as hell doesn't have an elite defense, or a good enough offense that some random can just stand back there and game manage.

I'm not sure it's the right path either, but if Cam can't get right/get healthy then this season is lost anyway.

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Just now, PleaseCutStewart said:

As bad as Cam was, I do not understand how we didn't attempt a ton of screen passes with the Bucs literally running jail break blitzes rushing 7 or 8 guys. Doing that a few times would not only result in big plays but also force the Bucs to chill with their blitzes. The god awful playcalling only encouraged and rewarded the Bucs for blitzing every single down

Could Cam have put the ball on target?

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1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

As bad as Cam was, I do not understand how we didn't attempt a ton of screen passes with the Bucs literally running jail break blitzes rushing 7 or 8 guys. Doing that a few times would not only result in big plays but also force the Bucs to chill with their blitzes. The god awful playcalling only encouraged and rewarded the Bucs for blitzing every single down

Yeah every time you saw them creeping up to the line and playing press man on the outside you could just feel the sack/hit coming.  Must have been utterly demoralizing.

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how many qbs could play for this coach and in this offense behind that oline?

you have two dinosaurs coaching the team, a radio host as GM and an owner who is too weak to pull the trigger on firing anybody. it's like an 80 year old driving a ferrari, driving 10 below the limit in the passing lane.

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I don't care about how much some may defend him, he's done so much for this franchise, but his play tn with this coaching staff will result in a cascade of losses.  Factor in the OL play to the left and we're going to have some MAJOR issues.  This wasn't even a great defense, just one who knew how to attack our offensive weaknesses without Cam running. 

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