Hope you like the state of officiating...

[1of10Charnatives]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well if you listen to Raider fans, it's been lousy since the 1972 playoffs.

*blinks*

People listen to Raiders fans?

I think I’d rather listen to The Cranberries scream out Zombie on loop all day til my eardrums bleed.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, 1of10Charnatives said:

*blinks*

People listen to Raiders fans?

I think I’d rather listen to The Cranberries scream out Zombie on loop all day til my eardrums bleed.

I don't think too many people listen to them when it comes to The Immaculate Reception.

The Tuck Rule, on the other hand...

[RumHam]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

... because the league just signed a new 7 year CBA with the referees' union.

NFL signs agreement with NFLRA

Doesn't sound like full time officials are gonna be hitting the field anytime soon.

The story does say though that the new agreement makes it easier to fire officials for poor performance.

 

wow they snuck this by on a saturday?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, RumHam said:

wow they snuck this by on a saturday?

I don't know that the timing is deliberate.

I'll grant it's possible.

[Paintballr]

We have the technology, why do we have men in their 60s running on the field and using a chain to measure a first down when tennis and baseball have shown us how to do it 

[1of10Charnatives]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Fair point.

I'm a big proponent of having full time officials but I kinda doubt the referees union is ever going to allow that to happen and the NFL doesn't seem willing to force it.

It’s beyond absurd to me that a multi BILLION dollar business that gets what is by FAR its largest capital costs covered by taxpayers (raise your hand if you know the actual definition of socialism and why it applies here) won’t pay its refs enough that it can say to their union:

”No, with what you’re paying you, we expect you to make this your year round full time focus. Officiating athletes of this caliber moving at these speeds is extremely hard and our officiating lacks public confidence, so we need you to stop selling real estate in the offseason and work on your craft.”

[1of10Charnatives]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know that the timing is deliberate.

I'll grant it's possible.

It’s well known in Washington that if you want something to get little fanfare, you release it on Friday. I could see the NFL using the same approach to this. I could also see them rightly thinking most fans are just not paying attention to referee collective bargaining.

[1of10Charnatives]

13 minutes ago, Paintballr said:

We have the technology, why do we have men in their 60s running on the field and using a chain to measure a first down when tennis and baseball have shown us how to do it 

Because Roger Goodell.

[Chaos]

33 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I didn't really notice until the replacements came in and were obviously horrible. I kept waiting for the day that the real ones came back expecting it would be better. 

It wasn't.

I just thought back to the fail Mary.  Christ that was bad. 

[Paintballr]

8 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Because Roger Goodell.

That at because of “tradition”. Majority of the baby boomers will get pissed because we are ruining the game with gps chips in footballs and cameras at every game. 

why does different time games get different amount of cameras? Different angles? 
 

It’s the same reason why people bitch at baseball games why they are installing nets for safety, and why baseball games still last 5+ hours 0-0. 

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, Paintballr said:

That at because of “tradition”. Majority of the baby boomers will get pissed because we are ruining the game with gps chips in footballs and cameras at every game. 

why does different time games get different amount of cameras? Different angles? 
 

It’s the same reason why people bitch at baseball games why they are installing nets for safety, and why baseball games still last 5+ hours 0-0. 

I like baseball movies because they boil baseball down to the bits where something actually happens. I also don’t mind going downtown on a nice day and paying a few bucks to hang out with friends, drink a beer and maybe get flashed by a drunk attractive female fan while a baseball game happens to be going on. It’s like the cover charge at a bar except it’s outdoors and every once in a while the players might do something interesting.

But sit and spend hours of my short time on this earth watching the game on tv, or pay the asking price for MLB games?

Pass.

[WarHeel]

I’ve seen some veteran officials do a pretty crappy job week in and week out so not sure how the situation could possibly worsen itself.

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

I just thought back to the fail Mary.  Christ that was bad. 

Legendarily bad.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

The rules have become overly complex and subjective. Even the best of officials seem to struggle determining if a catch is a catch or a touchdown is a touchdown.

Ball breaks the plain of the end zone, touchdown.  Two feet in bounds and ball doesn't fall out of receiver's hands, catch.