4 undefeated QBs

[SBiii]

2 hours ago, raz said:

wait a minute.  y'all are arguing.  i swear i thought you 2 were the same person with 2 accounts.   

One & only here mate

[saX man]

I wonder Grier could be worth on the market?

[Peppers90 NC]

8 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

I'm sure Daniel Snyder would be trade bait for Cam, straight up for Trent Williams?

Probably not, him and Allen are high on Haskins so much so they fired Gruden for not starting him.

[Darvinsun]

12 hours ago, SBiii said:

Fella, "game managers" dominate this league (a fact clearly lost on you).  

  "Game manager" = Super Bowl winning QB's = Brady, Wilson, Flacco, Manning (2), Foles, Dilfer, Plunkett, Theismann, Warner, Starr, Griese, Johnson, Rypien, Montana....

....not a single Superman® QB in the lot.

Yeah, sign me up for a top-notch game manager.

PS....your "regressing" assertion = #FakeNews

Half of the QBs you listed are not and were not game managers.

[Darvinsun]

3 hours ago, OriginalPantherDan said:

I disagree that the Panthers need Cam to compete for a SB. Good defense and a great running game along with smart QB play that mixes in the occasional deep shot is absolutely a recipe for success. Would Cam make them better? If he’s healthy, probably. But he’s not essential to wins anymore. 

Teams will stop CMC we have seen this. If they don't get better play at the QB position we will loose just like we did in 2015. Ron is not good at decision making and will get out coached. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

18 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

PS. If the tweet above triggers you, you probably are not a Panthers fan. 

This.

[mc52beast]

After four games it’s hard to tell what Allen will eventually be. Could be really good or could be JAG. 
 

Panthers brass could find themselves at the end of the year trying to get some picks for him and going with Grier

[Cpt slay a ho]

8 hours ago, CRA said:

IMO, to think Cam isn’t going to want to get paid is wishful thinking. 

Cam gonna want about 30 mil a year.  Frankly non-top tier QBs are all getting that type money right now. 

To want that kind of contract would require a return this season with excellent play followed up by next season with the same kind of play.

of course he wants to get paid but at this moment he hasn’t earned a Matt Ryan type contract, a 30 mil a year contract is more likely if he comes back performs well, and follows up with a healthy 2020 campaign 

[Cpt slay a ho]

4 hours ago, AU-panther said:

I wouldn't bank on Grier having a couple of years to learn.  2020 is Cams last season under contract.  the logical time for an extension would be this offseason.  Most premier players would like to get an extension before their last year of the deal. 

Of course we could be stubborn and make him play on the last year of his deal and even play the tag game after that but that is a good way to cause some drama.

I see one of 4 options this offseason:

Cam is released and we save a lot of cap space next year.

Cam is traded.  I wouldn't expect what the Dolphins got for Tunsil.

Cam signs an extension.  If he comes back healthy and plays well he should expect to sign a deal in the $30m range.  If he doesn't play well or seem healthy what is the point of offering a mid range deal, say 4yr/60m?  If you aren't convinced he is worth $30m you mind as well go with Allen or Grier for a lot cheaper.

Try to force him to play on the last year of his deal.  Basically a 1y/$19m prove it type of deal.

What I hope happens, Cam comes back this year healthy and plays great and leads us deep into the playoffs.  Then signs a long term extension in the offseason and plays great for the next 5 years for us.

What I'm afraid is going to happen, he comes back this year, plays poorly and is released or traded (maybe for a 2nd or 3rd) in the offseason.  

I agree with most of the options you listed. I just don’t see cam causing a lot of drama because he’s not extended this year, he very well may pull a dak and just bet on himself.

i think cam is smart enough to realize his body of work besides the first half of 2018 hasn’t been great, which is of course due to injury, but that would be the main examples used in a contract negotiation.

I’m a big cam supporter but it’s just too logical to have him return this season and play at least the first half of next season before offering him and extension 

[MechaZain]

22 hours ago, CRA said:

Crazy thought 

I mean, we could keep him as a backup.  Considering we have Cam who has been injury plagued the past couple seasons and taken more hits than any QB in NFL history.   I mean he is cheap....and Cam could fug up something again

Grier's officially a bust if we can't even confidently pencil the guy in as the backup quarterback. 

[iamhubby1]

    When Cam comes back healthy, 30mil is not going to come close to getting it done.

 

    When Cam comes back healthy, Kyle is our backup.

 

    When Cam comes back healthy, Grier won't even be active. 

[SBiii]

3 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

    When Cam comes back healthy, 30mil is not going to come close to getting it done.

 

    When Cam comes back healthy, Kyle is our backup.

 

    When Cam comes back healthy, Grier won't even be active. 

When will that be?

[Peppers90 NC]

5 hours ago, MechaZain said:

Grier's officially a bust if we can't even confidently pencil the guy in as the backup quarterback. 

So well thought out and logical. Nice!

[iamhubby1]

22 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

So well thought out and logical. Nice!

 

    Now, be nice. That just might be the best he has.